Values into bluffs, and the old UTG trap
This was at a 10NL table and I was in the BB, I got dealt KJo and the pot went multiway with 3 players with both others having position on me (the RFI guy was sitting at at UTG +2). I flopped an ace high straight with a rainbow board (flop was AQT) and slow played it knowing MP would take a stab at the pot when checked to, I wanted to keep both players in the pot. The turn was Qh making the board 3 tone, and it got checked to MP who checked this time. The river was 9s. This time I bet half pot thinking maybe I'll get callers if someone has a set of queens or top pair or the non-nut straight. UTG+2 reraised me 2.5x my bet and I reraised him by shoving. He flipped AQ and took the pot with a full house.
Was my shove reckless given that another Q came on the turn? Or was a shove the right move?
Hi there ventrolloquist! Thank you for posting your hand, it is a very nice one!
You called from the Big Blind with KJo versus UTG+2 plus MP caller? I would say right off the bat that I don't love this call. Many times we are already dead and dominated by AK and KQ. (both in UTG and MP's ranges)
That being said, KJo is very dominated preflop, and we should be 3betting/Squeezing more often than calling. However, we cannot Squeeze UTG with so weak a range, unless we have information that UTG is opening very light, something like 15% to full-ring and 17% for 6-Max tables.
Even so, if we look only to the Raise First, and we see that the player is opening, for example, 16% from UTG at a Full Ring table, we also have to look to how fuch it folds to a 3bet/Squeeze preflop in position.
OMG, sorry for my candor, but it seems to me that you played this hand very poorly, preflop and postflop: preflop, for the reasons stated above, we cannot cold call very much with dominated hands versus UTG/MP, and we can be 3betting light versus another positions such as MP2 and Hijack, if it is the case. The fold will work just fine as well.
Now, you flop a straight nuts and decide to slow down when you hand needs protection???, Because you said that it double paired in the turn and that's favors better the UTG raisor than your calling range. Yes, UTG will have all the AA, KK, QQ, JJ, TT, AK, AQ, AJ and you in the BB will have none of these hands that could be Squeezing versus EP raise.
This is one of the scenarios where I love the donks flop because if UTG+2 have AQ, AT, AA, QQ or TT, it will NEVER fold to a donkey and most of players are re-raising their SETS in a spot like that, lovely
Since you have no information of Villain and you decided to slow your hand when it was better to bet for value and protection (donks flop for value) and, when your hand becomes weak you decided to shove?
You bet 1/2 pot river, got re-raised to 2.5x and you still believe you had the nuts?
What did you think that you were breakeven and UTG+2 had a KJ as well? Because if this is your ideia, if we put 100 BB blinds in the pot and for a miracle, UTG shoes KJ too, you are losing a lot to rake.
I would say again that because you didn't 3bet preflop, UTG will have in its range all the AA, TT, QQ, and 99 in this river, and you in the BB calling will have none of these hands. When UTG+2 re-raises you river it is representing only the nutted hands: the straight, which we know it is almost impossible for UTG+2 to have, and the BOATS! No Trips should be re-raising this river, like a Qx, UTG will never
bluff you with missing draws such as Kx for example.
I don't know the size of the stacks which is very odd for a hand analysis. Anyways, if both UTG+2 and BB Hero had 100 BB effective stack your re-raise river was not good.
If both UTG+2 and BB Hero had +150 BB effective stack, maybe you could call with your straight here, losing a ton, always.
If both UTG+2 and BB Hero had +200 BB effective stack, I am so sorry for you.
All started preflop: try to defend KJo and other similar Broadways versus Hijack Raise First, at minimum. Versus MP it is breakeven, losing. Versus UTG we are always dominated. When you decide to defend KJo, try to 3bet 70% of times or more and call 30% or less. We do not love calling from the blinds at the micros.
I hope it helps you, have a nice day. Nothing personal here, respect always and good luck at the tables!
Regards;
Carlos 'Aballinamion' Barbosa