Ring Game QQ

I am playing in a ring game and i seem to get QQ on the botton a few times it's a $0.02/0.05 everybody is playing fairly tight and everytime i get QQ their are no raise infront me i raise 3xBB and the SB & BB fold everytime i don't want to just limp or mini raise and they suckout on me.How do you guys think i should play them next time i get them on DB.

Raise them the same as you raise everything else.

My raises are typically 4xBB from EP and 3xBB from LP.

i play QQ cautiously from any position, especially after the flop and an over card hits. if you're playing at a tight table and you're on the button, a lot would depend on my image. have i been raising from the button every time? if so, i would raise here and hope the blinds have been paying attention and that one of them tries to make a stand. if an ace or king flops -- or say something like 5-6-7 or 3 suited cards -- and the blind makes a decent sized bet, i'd probably give it up and even show my hand -- let him know that i'm raising with a strong hand from the button. might make him think twice about playing back at me the next time, and also might make him think he can make you lay down a monster by over betting.

it's hard for me to just limp with QQ, because it seems like an over card always hits. if a player raises in front of me, i just call here (assuming we have a tight table) because i don't know how many times i've seen a race between QQ and KK.

be careful of the guy who bets into you on the flop with no over cards. let's say he leads out, you raise, and then he moves all in. at this point you're almost always going to find yourself up against a set or someone who was slow playing AA. if i'm up against a short stack -- say someone who buys in for the minimum -- then i'll call it, as he's likely pushing with any paired whole card.

always bet the same preflop and they will never know what your holding

I think u have to read the table. If the players are loose than u can give it a shot even if is an overcard on the flop. If they are tight u have to fold after the flop if u see a raise. But i do not think the problem is after the flop. Problems appear at the turn and the river when if the other one raises hard u will have to take a hard decision.

A few things you need to be aware of:

You should be raising QQ the same as any other hand. If you take a different line to get action with it everyone will know what you have, more importantly though when you take your normal non-premiums line they'll know what you DON'T have.

You're hardly ever getting action when it's folded to you on the button, use this for the rest of your range and cry when it means your premiums get no action. FWIW, my standard button open raise is 2bb with ATC which I do purely for fold equity, a min-raise will not get you significantly more callers than 3bb or 4bb. Purely raising for value, you're losing equity by raising less here.

Take it down when you can...QQs are a strong preflop hand but easily beaten,so if all you can get is steal the blinds with a standard LP bet, then its a win, another free orbit!!!

cheers and gl
wooter

It's better to win a small pot than to lose a big one, and limping in with hands like qq and jj always seem to have results like that. Unless you really think your gonna get a raise behind you, I would be patient and play your game, don't get to much into trapping. I would try to get a looser table image.

In those small stakes I found that slow playin some hands such as QQ help. Most ppl in those blinds play really tight, or try to bluff after the flop. I've noticed this bc ive played these blinds for about 3 months now. The big pots I win come from slow playing and milking, not 3xBB raising with QQ

I played last night 10 hands at one table microstakes 1c/2c 6 max 3 players at that moment. Had 2 dollars. I got 2 queens on the buton and i raised 6c. One fish raise 20c, i went all in , fish went all in and showed me J10 offsuite. My QQ stayed the best untill the end and i took his money.
My advice. If you are playing at microstakes and the table is full of fish, try to put them all in if u have a big pair cose donks will call if they have something that looks preety.

What i saw is that all the ppl here give advice for players that play at medium stakes.
Pls advice begginers like me. Microstakes are a total different thing. Tabels are full of fish. One thing is to hunt one fish and one thing is to fight 4-5 donks. Table image does not mean too much cose a lot of donks will play from any position i they have A9 or A4
So pls give advice to begginers like me who plays microstakes. I know the basics and how to make profit at microstakes. But also i know that there are ways to improve the winnings when playing lot of loose ppl.

QQ is a great all in hand at microstakes and u can double your stack at that moment and than make profit from the tilting problems of the ppl that just begun playing poker.
Playing tight ppl at 2c/5c is just a bad choice of table in my oppinion. Why play tight ppl ? U have to wait like a million years to catch someone.

I posted something before on this thread. But after reading a lot of posts on this forum i kinda began to see poker differently. They way u chosed the table, full of tight ppl , will not give u any action from them untill they have something in their hands. My advice is , be agressive. Steal all that u can steal cose if they are tight u will not be challenged when u have a good hand. All that could happen is that they will leave the table or start playing loose. If they challenge u that means they have something and u should fold.

If everyone is folding their blinds, the adjustment isn't to stop raising your premium hands....

TheUndertaker said:

I am playing in a ring game and i seem to get QQ on the botton a few times it's a $0.02/0.05 everybody is playing fairly tight and everytime i get QQ their are no raise infront me i raise 3xBB and the SB & BB fold everytime i don't want to just limp or mini raise and they suckout on me.How do you guys think i should play them next time i get them on DB.

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i think most of the time you're doing the right thing. if you're normally very aggressive on the button (trying to steal blinds a lot) then this is definitely the way to go. if however, you're passive a lot then maybe once in a while you might want to limp, but be sure to study the texture of the flop and be cautious after that.

Should your raise preflop not be based off the action in the hand so far? And serve several purposes?

You can either raise the same amount every time (I prefer this when I'm first into the pot from a non-stealing position with a somewhat loose table who I expect a call or raise is likely), or you can raise based on the action in the hand so far, as well as what your opponents are likely to view your raise as.

A lot of the time strong = weak and weak = strong, so poker players have settled into this. It's good to mix it up sometimes with some strong = strong and weak = weak.

If there are two limpers to my button and I have KK and the blinds behind me, I'll put a larger than normal bet out there, to make it look like a steal, even though my hand is strong.

If you end up showing down you'll get respect the next time you make that move, which can give you a lot of fold equity in later hands.

Food for thought. Nom nom nom. Now I'm gonna go get some food for belly.

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I'm always gonna raise queens on the button.

Limping can get you in trouble.

raise ur best hands

I agree with the other posters who recommend raising with queens. If you try to get cute by limping, yes, you'll sometimes be able to build a bigger pot that you'll win when they don't put you on a hand like queens, but you'll also lose a lot of pots when you let players in cheaply. Players in the blinds can have anything, so you don't want to get run down by players having A-rag or K-rag and making a higher pair, or players in the blinds making two pair on you. Raise and take the money down! Good luck.