Representing a Jack

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Here is another hand that almost never fails in no-limit Hold'em. You have always to consider your opponent. You have to get inside his head. You need to know the guy that you pulling this on, he’s a good player and he’s thinking along the same lines that you’re thinking. You also have to be behind him and let him act first.

So, he’s raising and you call him.
Here comes the flop right here: :js4::jh4::3d4: and he bets which usually the guy who raised the pot preflop will lead and bet at the pot. So, this guy leads off and bets at the pot.

You don’t raise him, you just call him. Now, actually here is his hand: he’s got an Ace, King :)as4::ks4:), perhaps he may have a big pair here, it still usually works. And here’s your hand :7c4::5c4:. You got nothing.

But when he bets and you call him, he immediately thinks: “He probably got a Jack and he just waits for me to come home”

And, regardless what comes if he checks you bet at this pot and even if he’s got AA or KK he usually will call you there but when the last card comes and you make a real big big bet almost invariably he’ll fold. Again, you have to be aware of who you play against. It goes back playing against people. If this guy is a good player, he’s thinking along same lines I just described, this play works 95% of the time. At least 95%

The secret there is the call on the flop.
You can’t rise because he may get suspicious. If you do have a Jack here and raise, is a good play because he is suspicious and he thinks “He’s trying to pick this pot up off me” But if you just call him, I mean, warning bells are going on in his head. You can almost see them. What you’re doing here, you actually with absolutely nothing, basically, you just setting-up the bluff by using this round to establish the fact that you’ll able to bluff on the next round.

It doesn’t matter what two cards you’ve got. This goes back to playing your people instead your cards. This guy just can’t help to think that I’ve got a Jack here. There’s no draw out there, I don’t have a big pair or I would’ve raise him preflop. So, he says: “What is he got? - He’s got a Jack because I bet and he called me”

This play will work. Just try it.


This are some of the most sophisticated plays in Hold’em but you don’t want to be trying them against the suckers. No, You don’t try them against amateurs. This are sophisticated plays against good players. Because if the players don’t understand what you’re trying to convey you just wasting your time and wasting your money. You can’t make a sophisticated play against an unsophisticated player. Always remember that.
 
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and what if he is thinking i know he doesnt have a jack he just wants me to think that-what if instead of a-k he realy has a-j and just checking to you hoping ul bet the river
 
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and what if he is thinking i know he doesnt have a jack he just wants me to think that-what if instead of a-k he realy has a-j and just checking to you hoping ul bet the river

The issue in my post is that the opponent raised preflop out of position, gets called by you in position. Makes a continuation bet on the JJ3 flop from up front and you called him.

What's his thinking right now about your hand?
- "He must have a Jack"

So, here you have it. Get the details from my original post and see for yourself how you are going to feel with AK up front and me calling twice when the flop is JJ3. Nothing looks good anymore. Even the AA in your hand looks and feel like napkins.
 
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I guess that's the difference between the men and the boys. Knowing these spots is great against the weak tight, but the good players will generally know when to call down light with AK. If i'm able to pick up on some of these spots i'm sure others have.
 
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I guess that's the difference between the men and the boys. Knowing these spots is great against the weak tight, but the good players will generally know when to call down light with AK. If i'm able to pick up on some of these spots i'm sure others have.

If you are so good to pick up spots, more power to you. Still, you cannot be sure if I have or not a Jack. So, will be extremely very very hard for you to keep betting out of position after you've been called twice on a flop of JJ3 and face another big bet on the river where you'll be checking. Probably the hand will end on the turn when I will take the pot away from most players. Of course it also depends who the other player is. This is not to be tried against calling stations or unsophisticated players that doesn't understand what's going on.
 
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yes the key here is knowing if your opponent is a good player, a calling station or a donk. inwas on the opposite end yesterday on similar flop. i had two pair and villian bet low so no way was i thinking he had trip jacks but sure enough he did and i was beaten by my own style of play
 
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yes the key here is knowing if your opponent is a good player, a calling station or a donk. inwas on the opposite end yesterday on similar flop. i had two pair and villian bet low so no way was i thinking he had trip jacks but sure enough he did and i was beaten by my own style of play

This move is to be executed in a raised pot. If opponent has raised pre from up-front and you called in position according to my original post, most likely he's got AA,KK,QQ,AK and maybe AQs. He's less likely to have a JJ because we got two of them on the flop and any other combo of JX is not a raising hand from EP.

So, all this fantasy arguments against what I'm trying to help you guys is pure out of this world. Poker player, in general, try to outsmart opponents at the table but the sad part is that also on the message boards some try to find reasons to argue against another very smart way of playing. I once in purpose find a paragraph about playing AK very aggressive from Doyle's Super System and post it. Could you imagine that I got trolled of tons of better strategies of how to beat AK in the setup I described. This tells me tons about how players try to pretend.
 
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You cant say it works at least 95% of the time.

What if as well as villain thinking about what hero has, he is also thinking about what hero thinks villain thinks he has?

All about levelling, but you are not considering all the levels in this post.
 
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nice advice but as you said can be used only carefully as no all villains will buy it.
 
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