Range of steal and cbet

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Hey guys, my name is Wegis Silveira, I just signed in cardschat.

I need a help to adjust my range of steal in cash.

Analyzing my stats I realized that despite my percentage of steals not be as high, at times I try to steal with very weak hands. For example, in one hand I tried a steal of BTN with 62o and got BB's call; on board (QAQ) I made the cbet of a half pot and received call. dropped on the turn, of course.

I know the cbet was horrible, but which range steal you advise me? and what better way to make a continuation bet or not?
 
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stealing is always going to be villian dependent, if they fold alot to steals then you could steal with a super wide range (although I don't think I'd ever include 62o in that range in a cash game lol).

cbet if the flop hits your perceived range, but most importantly if it doesn't hit your opponents perceived preflop calling range.

The limits your playing and where for that matter could factor in as well to the general population tendancies.

Do you use a hud?
 
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thanks BluffMe.

Oh yeah, i use PT4 but i am still learning use it completely.
Lately i usually play 6max micro and try adapt to each player.

Do u have some idea about the percentage of the range in this limits?
Or where can i learn more about the stats?

thanks again!
 
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I like to use Broadway hands and all pairs. If blinds are nits I literally use any two cards. As for the c bet, you want to bet anything you actually hit, and most that you don't. Just avoid flops like A9T unless you actually have a hand.
 
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Hello! I don't understand why you say that "cbet was horrible". Belive me, Cbet - is VERY good thing! But of course, there is some rules to use this instrument:
1. You need a minimum of credibility stolomb, opponents should know that you often Cbet, and play more or less agressive.
2. You need position.
3. Try to read opponents game, when he raise and call

If he calling-station, just leave the table.
 
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If he's a calling station, don't just leave the table looking for a better table there's a lot of value here. I would leave the table only if I wasn't on his right/in front of him having position and value bet my made hands easy 💵 and if the tag,agrro tard or lag tries to 3 bet you, depending on the players range you could throw in some light 4 bets taking a bet fold line.
 
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thanks BluffMe.

Oh yeah, i use PT4 but i am still learning use it completely.
Lately i usually play 6max micro and try adapt to each player.

Do u have some idea about the percentage of the range in this limits?
Or where can i learn more about the stats?

thanks again!


Hi Wegis. I am not a cash player as a rule, but I was often told that to c-bet our % should be approx 50%. Also I have seen/ read that you should also bring check-raise into your game as well. This can be very effective against "Laggy players", although when not used too often.

As has been mentioned in your thread, often it depends on your opponent how often you c-bet / re-raise / check-raise. You will find alot of info in the forum on all these subjects. I believe there is also a small stakes group who operate on skype. Gl in the future........:D:D:D
 
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Whether or not your c-bet steal attempt was bad has nothing to do with the cards and everything to do with the player and situation.

AQQ flop:

When to steal:

a) Is your opponent generally defending their blind light?
b) Are they going to fold if they don't hit?
c) Are you credible? Meaning is this the one time you decided to raise 62o on the BTN, or do you just raise every button?
d) Given the spot, stacks, what you know about the opponent, are you willing to fire a second barrel on the turn? BTN raises don't get a ton of cred even from tighter players so a lot of draws will peel the flop here.

When not to steal:

a) Your opponent defends their blind fairly tight and pretty aggressively. Look to steal pre-flop maybe, but post flop you'll be in trouble.
b) Your opponent is a call station. You might give them every reason in the world to fold, but damn it HE HAS POCKET 2s AND WILL NEVER EVER BE BLUFFED! These guys are annoying until you realize they are ATMs.
c) You are perceived as raising loose pre flop. If people think you are a bullshitter, this is the time to get value, not bluff.
d) Your opponent is a very strong situational reader. The easiest way to defeat a very good opponent is to not get involved in hands with him!
 
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always try it on the button when no one raises just raise works all the time
 
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