Quiz: What do you do here?

pokerstars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed)
Button ($25.63)
SB ($28.76)
BB ($36.41)
UTG ($30.84)
Hero (UTG+1) ($26.24)
MP1 ($27.31)
MP2 ($39.35)
MP3 ($21.89)
CO ($30.99)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K , 10
UTG raises to $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 6 folds, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.60) 10 , 6 , 10 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $14.25, Hero ?

Preflop call is normally terrible here but the fish are aplenty so unless I get squeezed I can bink hard and stack someone

UTG is unknown but based on the flop bet I clasified him as a huge fish who probably confused holds an overpar. Ofc he might have AT for all I know, or some kind of flush draw. This doesn't look like he binked it hard but fish are notoriously unpredictable.

Sooooo, I want opinions. What is best here? F / C / R?

Shove and close your eyes. W8 10 seconds and than see the result.

Knowing me i would grip my teeth and call... I guess that right answer is fold and take a note for the next time.

Shove and pray

But honestly folding pre is right move. KT from utg+1 should always be in the muck

kdg730 said:

Shove and pray

But honestly folding pre is right move. KT from utg+1 should always be in the muck

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I do agree with you. Sometimes folding pre flop is correct. Unless u have a high pair like JJ QQ KK AA.

swingro said:

Shove and close your eyes. W8 10 seconds and than see the result.

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Well said haha. Fish will call you almost always call a raise after betting 10x pot, so shove and pray he doesn't have AT (or, help him, T6...).

Here is how it went down:

PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed)

Button ($25.63)
SB ($28.76)
BB ($36.41)
UTG ($30.84)
Hero (UTG+1) ($26.24)
MP1 ($27.31)
MP2 ($39.35)
MP3 ($21.89)
CO ($30.99)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K , 10
UTG raises to $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 6 folds, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.60) 10 , 6 , 10 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $14.25, Hero raises to $25.74 (All-In), 2 folds (!!!)

Total pot: $30.10 | Rake: $1.35

I would almost say he outplayed me except for the fact he lost half a buyin still no idea what he had, maybe 2 overcards? Does he actually fold a flush draw?

Raise here is probably best choice. Call would not bring any extra EV. It must have been big fish, because he could just raise something like 3-4$ to get same result and save himself 10$.

Btw. before you have posted a result, I was puting him on 66. But true is that most fishes are usually slowplaying such great flop.

Fish don't normally overbet flop with the nuts although a 66 might be paranoid about a turned overset... but I think he would still want some value there.

The whole line is incredible to behold... he can't be sure I don't have something like JJ-QQ here and due to sizing any 2 overs can actually call if that is the case.

It is just such a retarded way to bluff fold against two people I just had to share. And this is 25NL FFS, not 2NL.

maybe he meant to bet 1.25 and accidentally keyed a 4 in there as well given that he folded....what fish bets out like that and doesn't call the allin for less money then is already in the pot ..... obvious move is to snapshove IMO and would have thought to expect a call tbh.

I just hate the call preflop especially against an unknown UTG. You are never going to win this hand enough, its probably a big leak in your game. IMO the most important thing to take from this hand is not to have played it in the first place. If he is a fish then fine but you dont know that here. Even if he is a fish i dont like the spot with so many to act behind. If his stats are fishy someone should be squeezing in late position.
The rest of it is simple its a clear all in and im not thinking about it for more than a nanosecond. You are only behind to AT or 66 and that is so unlikely it can be ignored.

What is there to think about? Nobody is ever doing that with AT, 66 or T6. If you are afraid to get it all in on the flop with trips king kicker then you shouldn't be playing.

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Well played.I would take the same risk and just shove on the flop against the raiser.I think he got only something like JJ or QQ.

Figaroo - You are right, actually I almost never just call preflop but:

1) I have been playing 25NLZ for a while now and know a lot of players and their tendencies (3bet and squeeze stats are relevant)
2) On this occasion there were no regs on the table (Sunday!) so it was worth a shot, weekend fish don't squeeze much without really good hands. Tables like this are very rare so impact of calls on my stats is pretty much nil.
3) I have position vs UTG and blinds, if anyone else calls I won't continue past the flop without a strong hand or draw (OESD, FD, combo draw).

Yeah it is tricky but hardly a leak vs. 8 weekend fish who will pay off when I bink (including random hands like this one).

In this case flop was probably a call but generally I think just shoving is best, I mean who freaking folds there right? But I wanted other opinions just to be sure.

Just calling or shoving is good.

Any move is good.

If you are going to go all in anyways why not just call him down. Regardless of what happens after the flop you would have your money in but by calling you give him the oppertunity to put the rest of his roll in.

Because calling is actually a much stronger move than shoving?

Strange situation. I have no idea what he wanted to do... Knowing that this is a fish would play to all-in

Maybe he mistyped? Weird...

Even by a fishes standard he played that terribly. Must have been a mistake.

or a mistake or a move to test you..i would definitly go all-in..even if he had a flush draw

shove and pray was nice huahaua