Question for lowstakes cash game players

What do you guys think about floating flops in 3 handed pots with nothing but a gutshot?
Obv. I'll float just about anything (including a gutshot) if i'm heads up post flop with someone who isn't very sharp, but floating 3 handed changes the dynamic a bit.
consider these variables
-you aren't getting immediate calling odds
-your facing a C-bet and a call (so your way behind)
-your stacks are deep
I like to peel off another card in these spots because I think when you do connect the payoff is tremendous, it seems that these hands are the most disguised. I'm starting to think I've just been luckboxing lately however so I want some outside opinions.
It only really works if you can get your opponent to really commit when you hit, against a good player who can sense your hand its much harder to show a positive expected value
I think on paper you would have to be like 120+ bb's deep because if you do float the flop your never seeing a river
like most things, I think this move is going to be more +ev with a deeper stack in position.

I think this type of move is most effective at the 1/2 2/5 levels where somebody could realistically stack off with an overpair to the board

opinions?

You are asking if floating a multiway pot with a raiser and a caller with a 4 outer will be profitable?

Probably not.

I always asume that playing draws multiway is always more profitable because of the pot odds. When playing these hands though, make sure you're drawing to the nuts as other players may have you beat with higher straights and flushes.

With a 4 outer? You'd want to be fairly sure villain(s) will stack off with an overpair, and you'll need to be right most of the time, the small number of times you do hit your longshot.

Not sure deepstack players are stacking off this light in general, and if you do come accross one, I'd say you are stacking them in the more conventional, cheaper ways anyway. Even an okay player will shutdown come the river with light holdings, and if you weren't drawing to the nuts you could royally screw yourself.

If you don't hit any of your 4 outers for a long time (variance) your stack is being ground down a lot faster doing this. So if you are on a heater then maybe yes, try this from time to time against the right opponent; If you are on a downswing, you really don't need this on top of everything else.

I think deep this is probably fine. Not 120bb deep, more like 175+. You can get a good chunk of that stack.

Its board dependant too, but if you have 4 outs to the nuts then you can probably peel there.

SwiftHax said:

I always asume that playing draws multiway is always more profitable because of the pot odds. When playing these hands though, make sure you're drawing to the nuts as other players may have you beat with higher straights and flushes.

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+1

I think its a matter of pot odds. If it doesnt warrants, then we can look on implied odds.

against a lag

i would say a lag who overplays hands and has like 5 or 600 on him due to his lucky catches and you can stack him, i say its worth it if you can see the next card semi cheap and also if you re-raise on the flop in position it might save you money on the turn when he checks and you now have bluff equity. overall though the scenario most likely will not be worth chasing .

What is the meaning of the term "floating?"

LeanAndMean said:

What is the meaning of the term "floating?"

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calling, usually in position, with no real hand strength. It is usually with the intent to take down the pot once the other player checks it to you.

Floating OOP is usually a bad idea, since you have to wait another street to act.