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starky2009

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I recently tranfered to cash from sit n go's, with mixed results. I play 5/10 currently and buy in for the maximum of 10dollars, playing a tag style. My main problem is losing to a set when i have a big over pair.

I will often lose my entire stack in this situation, and would like some advice on how to avoid it better.

I've started raising to 5x pre flop to lesten the implied odds i give my opponents, although realistically theres still a large chunk remaining How about buying in for less or at the 20bb-50bb tables instead.

I find i have to play tag at these limits because of how loose they can be, and i sometimes play 4 up to ten tables at once.

Bassically it boils down to this, should i really be folding when i think the villain has a set, or is too much of a cooler to get away from.

Thanks in advance
Richard

p.s will someone explain what a trackback is (this is my first post). and if you can be bothered a poll.
 
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Do you have tracking software? How tight are you playing? What type of players are hitting their sets?
 
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I have hold em indicator, i'm doubtful that i can post hand histories from it. I'm about 15vpip 10prf.
I couldn't really say what type of people are hitting the sets against me, any1 and every1 i guess.

This is a hand i played about an hour ago and i can roughly remember how it played out. (5/10nl fr) There positions are roughly accurate, and the folds are a given.

vilain utg/utg+1 (delt 99): raise to .40 had roughly 7 dollars
utg+2/mp1: calls for .40
hero (delt AA): HJ: raises to 1.60 note i didnt have Ac
villain: calls for 1.60
utg: calls for 1.60

pot roughly 5 dollars (flop: 9c 6c 8not c)

villain check
check
hero bets 4 dollars
villain goes all in for around 5.40
hero calls for 1.40 more

turn and river are irrelevent, i still would be questioning myself about my play if i hit an ace or not.

I was pretty certain he had a set as well, but as noted i didnt have to Ace of clubs, so he has a flush draw here a small percentage of time.

Is it likely that the villain called explicitly for a set, or just thought ooooh 99's a pretty goood hand..............sweet a 9 on the flop that helps.

Anyway this is just one example, and one of many, i need to know what i'm doing wrong.
 
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Looks standard.

Don't fold overpairs in 3bet pots for 100bbs.

Looks like bad luck rather than bad play for that hand at least.
 
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as hillbilly said, you played the hand good, just bad luck he made a set, he should have folded that 99 pair, yet he called a 3bet and got lucky. who knows, maybe you are running a little bad so just keep the spirit up, play well within you bankroll and you should be fine.

we could do with more hands posted tho. and give us the villains vpip and pfr.
 
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I also agree, as played, bad luck.


BUT, you said it happens often. So let me add.

I used to go broke often with overpairs to sets as well.
I learned I was overvalueing overprs. They were hard for me to get away from. Regardless if I felt I was beat or not.
Maybe look into that.
 
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Thanks for the advice everyone. It really is a case of overplaying overpairs I think. If i get another example i'l post it, I won't be playing for a while though cos i have exam resits.
 
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Don't get married to a hand...

You have to be able to recognize when you might be in trouble... For instance if you're raising 4bb preflop and a player calls you, then CH/RAISES you on a raggy flop... In the back of your mind you have to think that you're beaten, and it really becomes a judgement call as to weather you continue. You make that judgement based on what you've observed at the table. If its a tight player you might consider folding and if he's loose then perhaps you'd call.

Its very difficult to tell someone how to know when they should fold... In fact thats basically what poker is all about. It's very hard to learn that from reading a couple of paragraphs in a thread; it only comes with experience.
 
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