QQ vs AJ

Hi all, last night I did lose a coin flip in a 6 short Hand FTilt tournament.
Lucky Man (button) 4000
SmartTight (sb: 50) 3000
ME (bb: 100) 2000

LM raised to 350 and I put him to AJ AT AQ AK KQ,
SmartTight folded and I was All-IN with QQ

He showed AJo but the flop was 2 A 7 ant after T 9
I did lose, but my question is:
Did I do the right thing?
I know If I just call him I see an ace and I can fold my top pair ... losing just something like 350 ... but I was not committed ... or my 78% vs 22%
(I was sure he had something like AJ AT) is a good % to be in a coin flip?

Can you give more detail? How was your stack looking compaired to the avg? You put him on a rather high range while he *could* have been just playing position and chips, how was he playing the rest of his hands?

I am not a huge fan of pushing PF unless im late in a tourney with a smaller stack. ESP if you put him on an ace, I would try to at least see a flop before committing my stack, because as you saw, the ace killed you.

QQ is like my ex girlfriend, she looks pretty, but will let you down in a pinch! Kx and Ax are drawing on you and if either hit you are sunk, keeping in mind those are the kinds of hands that would call your all-in.

Just my 0.02

i think you should of just called there becasue you could of just gotten way from it after you saw the flop. Pushing preflop is a mistake that i have learned to get rid of becuase i lose to many coin flips that way.

It looks like it was a 1-table SNG with 3 players left, and I'd guess two places paid, so you were on the bubble. If so, and given you still have 20BB, my inclination would be to call and see the flop.

Also, why did you think his hand range was so limited? It's 3-handed, no one is short-stacked, and he has the large stack on the button, so his 350 bet has a much wider range than that. Depending how loose and aggressive he is, he could have any two. Even a moderately tight player will open a lot of the time.

More and more online I am shying away from over valuating the QQ. I have even had the Q come on the flop and still get beat 3 out 7 times by the river.

vollski69 said:

i think you should of just called there becasue you could of just gotten way from it after you saw the flop. Pushing preflop is a mistake that i have learned to get rid of becuase i lose to many coin flips that way.

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disagree here
I dont call AJ vs QQ a coinflip. AK vs QQ, then yes. From the original post he thought the other player had AJ AT AQ AK KQ. 4 out of those 5 hands, including the AJ that he had, will lose to QQ more often then not. I guess it's just the way you play. Im assuming QQ beats AJ more frequently (based on percentages), and thus I want to get all of my money in with the best hand. If he went all in preflop, would you have called? Yes. Would it have been the bad move? No. Thus, if you push all in with QQ and he calls with AJ, I don't think that's a bad move either. He hit a 3 outter, assuming he doesnt hit a straight or something like that. If you just call and the flop is A 3 7, and he has KQ and bets, then what do you do? Give me QQ vs Ax and I'll dance every day of the week.

this is a little result oriented. don't be kicking yourself for getting your money in good

The only hands that can beat a QQ are AK, KK, AA. You did the right thing. It's only a coin flip if he has 2 over cards. Since he only had 1 overcard, his odds of hitting that one card (or 3 outs) were roughly 30% from the flop to the river. Just because you did the right thing doesn't mean you'll win em all. That's poker and that's life.

Well

I believe you played it pretty well, there are many ways to play this. You could have smooth called and if you saw the ace, it would be an easier fold. But say a 395 comes, you can check it there, knowing you have the best hand then he might put you allin or bluff. There are many ways to play QQ and hands such as these. Honestly, I believe i would have played it the same way as you. You had about a 65-35% advantage. Just sometimes, the best hand will lose.

its poker. you got it in good and your hand didnt hold up. fire up another tourney.

What if he had shown AK or AA? I think the results interfered with judgment here, as the range he was put on is quite wide. Is QQ a good push option in this situation, it being the bubble and all? He raised first, and I see people raise like that with the best hands like KK and AA. Is it good to go by odds and expect that his range is within the specified (AK, AK etc. listed above) and know that most of the time in this situation he will not have a better hand?