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Evening all, after some thought on this hand if anybody has time.

Villain, sorry total unknown, plus I am pretty sure villain has no notes on hero either.

Cant remember exact positions around table, but I have position on villain.

20nl 6max

Villain limps pre flop (stack £20)
Hero raised to 65p pre (stack £20)
Villain calls
Al other players have now folded

Flop (Pot about £1.50)

:2d4::8s4::10h4:

Villain checks
Hero bets £1.10
Villain calls

Turn (Pot about £3.70)

:5s4:

Villain checks
Hero bets £2.70
Villain raises to £5.40
Hero?


Also, what are the thoughts of the hero turn bet?
 
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there a lot of possiblities here. maybe he hit a set of fives or he is semi bluffing with a good flush draw, probable with an ace and a good kicker. you should call this raise and then check call or fold depending on the strenght of villain raise after the river. if a spade, an ace or even a king comes, its quite possible that you will lose the hand, so you have to be cautious. he might also be thinking that you havent hit anything on the flop and turn so he is trying to steal the pot, maybe with a weak hand, maybe a pair of tens or even less than that.
 
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Probably folding turn, just because your likely beat. I think the turn bet is fine, going to the turn you wanna draw value from the section of his range that is just top pair. You don't have reason to believe that your beat based on his x/c line on flop. I think you can go into this turn planning to b/f and be fine. I actually don't think you get x/r'd all that often in this spot. Usually just gonna be a call or a fold. In this spot I think it's a fold
 
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Id be 50/50 whether he has set or big drw like 9J Spades or possibly flush draw with Ace.
Call and reevaluate on River if spade comes and they bet big easy fold:D
 
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I would call unless I knew villian never raised with a draw/air. Especially with position since he is first to act on the river which is huge. Plus you are getting like 4 or 5 to 1 on a call anyway?
 
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Cheers for the replies to far, will reveal the answer a little later, just seeing if there are any more thoughts first.
 
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i think the turn bet was completely fine, you should normally feel pretty confident you´re ahead at this point. Until someone chucks out the check-raise.

At this point tho i´d be inclined to fold. It feels like he´s flopped a set and is confident that you must be holding something to warrant c-betting on the flop and turn. So he check-raises for value. The pots gonna be around 14-15 if you call, and he´s left with under 13 after the river. I´m shoving a set or busted draw after the river so you have no further information.

Nasty spot after that check-raise but it just seems to shout strength to me
 
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I think youre beat. AA, KK or set are his hands. Only you will beat are top pair and JJ. If he's bluffing, then I cant do anything and live for another day. I think I will fold here.

I will bet on the turn but less than 2/3 of pot just to control the pot. If he check raise me then at least I invest less and fold.
 
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Most of the time yeah but of corse he can have are better hand.
If you have more info about the player it well be are good way to find what he have.
 
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there a lot of possiblities here. maybe he hit a set of fives or he is semi bluffing with a good flush draw, probable with an ace and a good kicker.
Suited A with a good kicker might well have open-raised instead of limping, so while such a holding is possible, it's not as probable as it may seem at first glance.
 
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I say pocket deuces! when do we get the results??
 
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Ok so here we go

I did call, and then the river was

:2c4:

This changed nothing, other than I guess the 1% of the time when they limp called T8s/85s/T5s pre and hero has now gone ahead in the hand. (I see a lot of limp calls with ATC suited so it is a tiny possibility, with out reads)

Villain bets about £4.50 and hero calls.

Villain showed

:ad4::ah4:

The river call was not based on that 1% of course, just that it would not make that much sense to call the turn and fold the river at a blank card.

Moral of the story, trust your instinct. I asked myself on the turn if most villains would CR with a hand worse than mine, I answered no to myself. Pity I did not fold accordingly.

Thanks for all the replies.
 
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Ok so here we go

I did call, and then the river was



called a river bet of about £4.50 into
cant see the results mate?! can u repost? im curious lol hope u took it down with him having a busted draw. or he had 22 and i was correct lol
 
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Hi dude.

Villain AA

River was 2c
 
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I was thinking AA or KK but less trips. You really have to pay him off.
 
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Hi dude.

Villain AA

River was 2c
2 on the river? there goes my pocket deuces lol. limp call pre with AA oop. thats a bit sneaky. would be hard to put him on AA. guess it worked well for him the way the board panned out.

I had a similar hand yday when villain limped AA, i raise 4x with AQs on the button and villain called. Flop came out Q high and i bet for value each street after he check called each time and was gutted to see him turn over AA.
Can be a profitable way to play AA if stack sizes are right i guess. Dont like it tho!!
 
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Yea, it can work if AA ends up HU vs a smaller big pair. But I would never limp it pre, he could have ended up 6way in a limped pot, and thats no fun.
 
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exactly, limping EP can breed more limping. he was just lucky u had a hand urself and the board worked out well.

The thing is ur both 100BB deep so he could probs have got it all in anyway
 
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