QQ Facing Turn Bet 25NL. Difficult Spot!

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kdg730

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So I'm looking for some advice in a spot I keep facing.
I play 25nl 6max on partypoker and the toughest spots I find are when you have an overpair such as TT, JJ, QQ in a 3bet pot with unders but fear they might have AA or KK...Heres a hand that help shows the difficulty


Folds around to me to HERO on the button with QQ
HERO Raises to 3x
VILLIAN in BB 3bets to 10x
I call, we both have 100 BB Stacks

Flop comes J77
Villian bets $4 into pot of $6.25
I call

Turn is a blank so J77x
Villian shoves all in so about $18 into a pot of $15ish

What do you do?

I know you are all going to say this is villian dependent. ANDDD I have the guy tagged as a somewhat fish call station more on the passive side. Which explains why I only called preflop. I also find that at this limit 4betting QQ hardly even turns out well (seemingly always beat having to fold to a 5bet shove). I don't really think this is the kind of guy that would 3bet light so I put him on AK, AQ TT+ preflop. When he shoves the turn his hand basically becomes AA, KK or AK/AQ as a bluff. And that is why I find this the hardest spot imaginable at this limit. Because you are either crushed or far ahead.

Let me know what you think the best play would be in this spot
Should I call off and just call it a cooler when I'm beat?
 
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Your QQ is basically just a bluff catcher there. All you beat is AJ or a naked bluff. If this guy is passive folding is correct.
 
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If he is LAG you could catch him with QQ, but since he was fishy I would be careful. Generally a huge turn bet from a passive player means huge strength, JJ, KK, Aces etc since he 3beted you. For a fish position means little or nothing.

Cheers
 
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You said above he is a caller and a passive one. From the scenario, he became the opposite. From preflop to turn, he was so aggressive all through out. I think he has either AA or KK. Seldom that a caller bluffs. I had seen enough, I fold.
 
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Hmm, okay, while of course it is opponent dependent, this is a passive player and I doubt they 3-bet light and they might not even care about position. A fold is fine. I can see a call here thinking your opponent has 88-TT or AJ if he can triple barrel bluff. That is unlikely though. I would fold myself.
 
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