Problem with the buy in/blinds relation playing live

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Hello,

Im going to play cash next week in Auckland, NZ and I already found out that the only avaiable holdem NL cash tables have:

- Min buy in of $100 / max buy in $200
- SB $3 / BB $5

I play ABC poker and the problem I find with this relations of buy in/blinds is that for example:

I OR in late position, there are 2 limpers so I have to raise 6bb ($30) what takes more than 1/4 of my stack if I sit with the min buy in just for an OR. This gives me almost no margin of manouver and I will be avaiable to play only a few hands. If I sit with the max buy in things dont change much, the margin is still short.

What would you recommend me to do? I was thinking about measuring the raises not by the number of BB but SB, so a OR in the same situation as before would be of $18, a good amount if I sit with $200.

Thanks in advance
 
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I suggest looking at the table dynamic. If possible, watch for a while before sitting in. Tables can differ in terms of what their normal bet sizes are, how people react to different opening and 3-bet sizes, etc. So for example, 3x + 1bb per limper is a general guideline, but there are tables where it takes more to do the same job, and others where you can do it with less.

Also, definitely buy in for the max.
 
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I suggest looking at the table dynamic. If possible, watch for a while before sitting in. Tables can differ in terms of what their normal bet sizes are, how people react to different opening and 3-bet sizes, etc. So for example, 3x + 1bb per limper is a general guideline, but there are tables where it takes more to do the same job, and others where you can do it with less.

Also, definitely buy in for the max.
^^^^^this
 
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^^^^^this
Not that.

The answer is simple, you play poker exactly the same as you normally do in a situation where the stack to pot ratio is small.

So when you raise to 6bb's in this case, you're correct. Its just that when you see a flop, the SPR will be MUCH MUCH lower than normal. So you'll be committed much quicker.

The value of high cards goes up, the value of small pairs and suited connectors goes down. And you should be willing to go all in preflop with a range much much wider than just QQ+ and AK.
 
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Not that.

The answer is simple, you play poker exactly the same as you normally do in a situation where the stack to pot ratio is small.

So when you raise to 6bb's in this case, you're correct. Its just that when you see a flop, the SPR will be MUCH MUCH lower than normal. So you'll be committed much quicker.

The value of high cards goes up, the value of small pairs and suited connectors goes down. And you should be willing to go all in preflop with a range much much wider than just QQ+ and AK.

What do you mean not that? I completely understand what you said(and believe it to also be true), but what Arjonius said was not wrong but completely true, especially imo at live tables.

Many live twits will call so many stupid open raise sizes sometimes just to see a flop because they are bored out of their minds. If you sit back and notice these players, you will want to raise bigger like Arj said, it's +ev for you. Last weekend at a $1/2 table the standard open was $15. Many times it is $6. But Saturday night had you opened for $6, the entire table was calling...

And also, I will never argue with the fact that you should buy in full
 
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I suggest looking at the table dynamic. If possible, watch for a while before sitting in. Tables can differ in terms of what their normal bet sizes are, how people react to different opening and 3-bet sizes, etc. So for example, 3x + 1bb per limper is a general guideline, but there are tables where it takes more to do the same job, and others where you can do it with less.

Also, definitely buy in for the max.

I really like this, seems very accurate, thats probably what Ill do.

I also agree that live probably fishes want more action and will call some OR with marginal hands, If I open with 6bb I will be pot commited and I will get a perhaps two callers that can draw me out or hit a set or 2p on the flop and Ill be completely screwed up.

Thanks for the answers!
 
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auckland usually has a $500 max buy in table aswell, so prob better to go there if your more comfortable playing 100bb deep
 
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I really like this, seems very accurate, thats probably what Ill do.

I also agree that live probably fishes want more action and will call some OR with marginal hands, If I open with 6bb I will be pot commited and I will get a perhaps two callers that can draw me out or hit a set or 2p on the flop and Ill be completely screwed up.

Thanks for the answers!
sigh :(
Read C9's response again imo.
 
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