This is a discussion on pot odds within the online poker forums, in the Cash Games section; So, I was reading Daniel Negreanu's book, Hold'em Wisdom for All Players. He has a chapter on pot odds. He says that when calculating the 


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So, I was reading Daniel Negreanu's book, Hold'em Wisdom for All Players.
He has a chapter on pot odds. He says that when calculating the odds for your hand, you only use the cards in your hand 2 plus the cards on the board....so that if you've seen the turn, you have 47 cards left.. I always understood this calculation as the number of cards left in the deck..in other words, if I need an have one ace and expect that I need an ace to win, I'd have 3 outs....3 out of 30, but if I go by DNs explanation...it's 3 out of 46. Which is correct? 
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its known cards you cant account for cards that you dont know
example your 2 hole cards and 3 flop cards leaves 47 cards so say you have flush draw which you only need one card to make it is 9/47=19.86 to make it on the turn, and 9/46 to make it on the river, but the easiest way is take your outs and multiply by 4 on the flop thats simple math by rounding it up. for example 9 x 4 36% not exact but close enough gl 
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There are 52 cards in the deck, and since you already know what your two cards are, as well as the four remaining community cards on board, that leaves 46 unseen, unknown cards.
This is a direct quote from the book, mods if this is outside the rules feel free to remove the post. I'm just wondering if I've been calculating wrong all this time...LOL 
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52 cards in a deck
you receive 2 and see 3 on the flop. 525 = 47 If you're drawing to an Ace (3 outs) your odds are 3/47. Which is means 3 cards in a deck of 47 remaining will help you. Or 44 cards in a deck of 47 remaining do not help you. The same is for the turn, except it'll be 3/46 cards. Quote:
Also, this is dealing with hand odds, not pot odds. 
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As a general rule of thumb if facing a bet: if you're pot odds are better than your hand odds, its a profitable call. If not, its profitable to fold. So, lets say you have a 4:1 chance to hit your flush and you're getting 5:1 on your money, then you should call. But if you're only getting 3:1 on your money, then you should fold. 
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I understand this....but, they both go hand in hand, when figuring pot odds....you're doing so to see if you should call compared to your hand odds. I"m trying to find the book that I got where I learned to calculate odds at...and maybe I just listened to Norm Chad or something....LOL there is my error....man Norm Chad bugs me.(am i the only one?) 
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No problem. Glad I could help.

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