Is pot betting fundamentally flawed against super fish?
I am starting to feel that building a pot in a way to get all the money in OTR is not an optimum way to play against super fish. They don't fold their draws and because it could be any draw its hard to get away with big hands when they do hit. And because we pay them off so much their calls aren't always as much -EV as we may think once you factor in the implied odds
they got. Getting all the money in OTT seems like a far better way to play in my opinion.
I feel once we are HU against such players and flop a 2 pair or have a big over pair sort of a hand on a 2 tone board we could actually just outright shove the flop. I have experimented this a little and I got called by flush draws and OESDs several times. I also got called by TPWK sort of hands as well. Obviously there would be occasions where we lose value by making them fold their bottom pairs but I believe the value we will get by their drawing and dominated hands would more than make up for it.
Against particular opponents we could actually include TPGK hands as well in the mix. In such a strategy sometimes we will get called by sets and 2 pairs which would make us look silly but we were going to lose big money in that hand anyways.
The important differentiation here is how wet the board is. Primarily 2 tone boards offer most value here as almost no fish is folding a flush draw OTF.
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