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I keep hearing being a good post-flop player is where all the winnings come. Can you please help me understand what is a good post-flop play. Here is what I have gathered so far from my readings

Post-Flop Play:

- If you hit a high pair with good kicker or overpair or two pair or set, then bet pot; If there is a drawing hand then even bet two pots
- Medium pair or less, then check-fold
- Don't call high turn and river bets with a single pair unless the other person bluffs frequently
- If you have a flush draw plus an overpair or str8 draws then semi-bluff by betting half pot
- If nobody bets the pot by turn, then bluff small percentage of pot occasionally
- Be cautious with a pair on board or a four card of same suit or a four card str8 on board

Please feel free or correct and add your wisdom on post-flop play.
 
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Basically that is correct. Rules should be broken sometimes though.
 
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Good list.

I'm not so sure about '- Medium pair or less, then check-fold' especially if villain is cbetting a lot or blind vs blind
 
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I'll say your post flop strategy is pretty similar to that of many breakeven/slightly losing players but you know what? Still a lot better than most and it should beat most fish with it. If you want a better win rate against other good regs you need to focus on balancing your post flop game.
 
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I just made $300+ post rake/tips sitting for a couple hours at a fairly soft table (mainly tight passive and loose passive players with a few TAGs), 1-2NL.

I think c-betting the flop aggressively is high EV against soft players in position, even if you have little hand equity. Obviously you want to be pre-flop raising to isolate 1-2 players post-flop.

I probably would not double or triple barrell at these kinds of tables. Many of these players get frustrated easily and don't like throwing cards away, which makes them ATMs when they have TPTK against your set. They will also throw away if they don't hit the flop hard, but will continue on if they hit flop well.
 
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I'll say your post flop strategy is pretty similar to that of many breakeven/slightly losing players but you know what? Still a lot better than most and it should beat most fish with it. If you want a better win rate against other good regs you need to focus on balancing your post flop game.

This is a good feedback. I feel the same too, I am breaking even mostly with this. How can I "balance" this or what can I do to improve on this?
 
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Nice list of recommendations, man! As for my piece of advice I would definetly stand for patience, sometimes u may feel that every hand u get is a rubbish, fold it emmidietly. Of course, such bad rows might lead to a tilt state, but pls be patient enough to meet ur best hand and take the pot! That's what I've discovered so far after 2 weeks of play, still learning something new every play:) Good luck!
 
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This is a good feedback. I feel the same too, I am breaking even mostly with this. How can I "balance" this or what can I do to improve on this?

Sadly this can't really be explained in a couple of paragraphs but doing things like x/calling middle pairs will help balance your range so that when you check you are not always giving up. That is really just a drop in the bucket though. Google is your friend
 
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I think the postflop poker game is where the real essence of poker is ... there is the real difference between the best poker players and the rest .... there are aspects that were not mentioned in your list ... like the position on the table when playing a postflop hand as well as your stack of chips and the stack of villains ...
 
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POST FLOP PLAY

A study is difficult for play after flop by the free roll, and there is cause which can't go up to a cash game easily from the free roll here.
 
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I keep hearing being a good post-flop player is where all the winnings come. Can you please help me understand what is a good post-flop play. Here is what I have gathered so far from my readings

Post-Flop Play:

- If you hit a high pair with good kicker or overpair or two pair or set, then bet pot; If there is a drawing hand then even bet two pots
- Medium pair or less, then check-fold
- Don't call high turn and river bets with a single pair unless the other person bluffs frequently
- If you have a flush draw plus an overpair or str8 draws then semi-bluff by betting half pot
- If nobody bets the pot by turn, then bluff small percentage of pot occasionally
- Be cautious with a pair on board or a four card of same suit or a four card str8 on board

Please feel free or correct and add your wisdom on post-flop play.

Basically that is correct. Rules should be broken sometimes though.

I'm particularly interested by the "- If you hit a high pair with good kicker or overpair or two pair or set, then bet pot; If there is a drawing hand then even bet two pots" strategy. IS this good strategy? I don't think I've ever bet as much as twice the current pot on the flop in that situation, because my attitude is that you want to give villains the wrong odds to call with drawing hands, but not SO wrong that they ALWAYS fold. Even if your opponent is open-ended AND flush-drawing on the flop (and even if you're not holding any blocker cards), they've only got approx 30% chance of making their hand on the turn, so if I bet pot post-flop they would then have to put in 50% of the new pot size to make a call, so they're putting in 50% for only a 30% chance of getting there. Some players WILL call in that situation, but any opponent who calls with those pot odds, is the kind of customer I want to keep, it'll pay off long-term. Am I getting anything wrong there, am I making some howling error with my maths, or is there anything else that I'm overlooking? Please let me know, peeps!
 
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Change it up. Know your own style. Key is to not be predictable. Poker is all about constructing a range, so based off your betting patterns, board texture, 3-bet, 4 bet, 5 betting, etc. you want your opponent to construct a very wide range when playing against you.
 
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