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Was hoping you guys could give me some advice, heres some positional stats on me. Im trying to improve my game. This is out of 15,000 hands i know its not much but i havent had pt3 very long.






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thepokerkid123

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Make fewer speculative plays from the button.
 
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I can't read the image...
 
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What kind of tournaments are these?

Overall, tighten up. You appear to be calling a lot more than you are raising. Drop some hands from your opening range and raise more of the ones you are calling with.
 
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Did you try clicking on the thumbnail?

lol, dense me, i clicked on the attached image instead, now I can read it.

Jilly's spot on I think...

Also, you're completing the blinds (esp sb) way too often. Common thinking is "it's cheap for me to call here and see if I crush the flop", which is reasonable if your cards are reasonable (though if they're reasonable, you probably should be raising them instead of calling). However, you'll miss your trash hands too frequently to make up for the positional disadvantage you'll have postflop - this is a common leak.
 
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Also, you're completing the blinds (esp sb) way too often. Common thinking is "it's cheap for me to call here and see if I crush the flop", which is reasonable if your cards are reasonable (though if they're reasonable, you probably should be raising them instead of calling). However, you'll miss your trash hands too frequently to make up for the positional disadvantage you'll have postflop - this is a common leak.

I thought if your getting the right odds the cards dont matter.
 
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You are getting the right odds, but terrible reverse implied odds.

For instance calling something like QT leaves you at very high risk of being dominated. Granted, AQ probably would have raised enough that you'd fold but KQ and QJ will frequently show up.

Since you're OOP, what line are you going to take if the flop hits 3JQ two tone? Lead out in a very multiway pot and you'll frequently be forced to fold by the action behind you. Check-raise and anything that calls you probably has you beat. Check-call your way to the river and watch the flush and/or straight scare cards come, including random A's and K's while your opponents range keeps getting stronger.
 
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I thought if your getting the right odds the cards dont matter.

Here's what I find is the problem a lot of the time. Let's say you have 98o in the SB-- effective stacks are 1500, and blinds are early, say 15/30. There are two limpers in front of you, so you're getting 7:1 odds to complete. Super, we call, and the BB checks.

Before the flop comes, we have to ask ourselves, "what kind of flop am I going to be happy to see?" With this type of hand, we are really looking to hit two pair, or an OESD perhaps. However, much more often, the flop will fall something like KT6, or J83, etc. These are all very marginal flops for us, because we will end up losing a lot of money trying to find out if we have the best hand.

So while the pot is often offering us sweet odds to play, we have to proceed very cautiously when playing from the blinds. If we don't hit the flop hard, in a one table SNG, it is likely best just to be safe and fold. Otherwise, we just end up spewing most of the time. You could make the counter argument that you will make up enough money on your huge hands for it to still be +EV, but you would need tremendous implied odds, especially if, as mentioned before, we start spewing with mediocre hands. In most cases, it is unlikely we are getting these implied odds.

Moral of the story: in these SNG's, play tight to avoid losing a ton in bad spots.
 
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