Polished Poker Vol. I Study Group

#6251 July 13th, 2020, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by John A

Moneymaker interview:

I'm not sure it's the best idea that the lawyer and wife know about the bracelet hiding place lol.

#6252 July 15th, 2020, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by gustav197poker

I'm not sure it's the best idea that the lawyer and wife know about the bracelet hiding place lol.

lol... right? Ya, not wise.

#6253 August 1st, 2020, 12:36 AM

Where is everyone playing lately?

I hope a good amount of you have gotten on the phone app sites. So many of them are ubber juicy.

#6254 August 4th, 2020, 2:59 AM

Im doing 60% of my volume on 888. 30% on Pokerstars. I also have small amounts on PartyPoker, Run it once , Black Chip Poker, Unibet and William Hill.

#6255 August 4th, 2020, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by Figaroo2

Im doing 60% of my volume on 888. 30% on Pokerstars. I also have small amounts on PartyPoker, Run it once , Black Chip Poker, Unibet and William Hill.

That's a good spread... but no action on these phone apps? They are so juicy.

#6256 August 9th, 2020, 7:16 PM

Originally Posted by John A

That's a good spread... but no action on these phone apps? They are so juicy.

Hello John,

I was wondering if it's possible to grind them on a desktop? Like are these type of rooms mobile only and if yes can you emulate them, or is it even allowed to do so?

And what about handhistories ?

#6257 August 10th, 2020, 6:51 AM

Originally Posted by LevySystem

Hello John,

I was wondering if it's possible to grind them on a desktop? Like are these type of rooms mobile only and if yes can you emulate them, or is it even allowed to do so?

And what about handhistories ?

you can use emulators to run them + some have their own pc versions. But running multiple emulators is a huge load on the pc so you should have a decent one
Some apps heavily ban huds(pppoker - I'm device banned there)
While you can use hud catchers to use hud in others. Drive hud has it's own hud catcher I believe
While you can use something like elitehud catcher for pt4/hm3

#6258 August 10th, 2020, 7:17 AM

Originally Posted by Alucard

you can use emulators to run them + some have their own pc versions. But running multiple emulators is a huge load on the pc so you should have a decent one
Some apps heavily ban huds(pppoker - I'm device banned there)
While you can use hud catchers to use hud in others. Drive hud has it's own hud catcher I believe
While you can use something like elitehud catcher for pt4/hm3

Sweet, thanks for the info!
Tbh I don't care much wich HUD it is, but the fact that can use one is great. Tracking hands is the one thing that keeps me on the bigger sites.

What about volume? Since the main sites don't really like winning players I can't imagine it's that much different over there. Any problems encourtered so far regarding volume, withdraw etc? Like there will obv be black sheep, guess I'm just a bit paranoid Polished Poker Vol. I Study Group

#6259 August 10th, 2020, 8:03 AM

Originally Posted by LevySystem

Sweet, thanks for the info!
Tbh I don't care much wich HUD it is, but the fact that can use one is great. Tracking hands is the one thing that keeps me on the bigger sites.

What about volume? Since the main sites don't really like winning players I can't imagine it's that much different over there. Any problems encourtered so far regarding volume, withdraw etc? Like there will obv be black sheep, guess I'm just a bit paranoid Polished Poker Vol. I Study Group

volume is quite low. You'd have to run multiple accounts on multiple clubs to keep a decent volume.
Withdrawals are heavily leaned towards crypto now. Also you need to find a really trustworthy agent. I've heard tons of stories of agents scamming playersof their money.

If some agent gives you a money guarantee, has a reputable site or something with a decent enough rb deal then that's the way to go.
If someone texts you on skype or telegram offering you a very high deal then that's a red alert cause those are the people who go missing out on you

#6260 August 10th, 2020, 9:12 AM

Originally Posted by Alucard

volume is quite low. You'd have to run multiple accounts on multiple clubs to keep a decent volume.
Withdrawals are heavily leaned towards crypto now. Also you need to find a really trustworthy agent. I've heard tons of stories of agents scamming playersof their money.

If some agent gives you a money guarantee, has a reputable site or something with a decent enough rb deal then that's the way to go.
If someone texts you on skype or telegram offering you a very high deal then that's a red alert cause those are the people who go missing out on you

Thank you a lot for the insight!

I will have a look around and see what I can gather. If nothing this could be some nice +ev grind on the side.

#6261 August 17th, 2020, 6:04 PM

Nice hand Bruce. Calling pre is good.I don't do much leading but it you think it will check around then seems like a good idea. I'd bet the pot on the flop. I would consider checking the turn if we think they like betting draws.

#6262 August 17th, 2020, 6:20 PM

This one was fun but confusing. I have the monster draw but many of my outs are going to be no good. I'd be happy with a low spade or the Ks for sure but other than those cards I'm not sure which if any of my outs besides Ks are good. This felt grimey...

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem 2(BB)
MP ($448.04) [VPIP: 50% | PFR: 8.3% | AGG: 47.8% | Hands: 24]
HJ ($279.83) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 100% | Hands: 17]
CO ($214.32) [VPIP: 15.4% | PFR: 10.3% | AGG: 22.2% | Flop Agg: 20% | Turn Agg: 33.3% | 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 15.4% | Hands: 40]
BTN ($204.73) [VPIP: 20.6% | PFR: 20.6% | AGG: 50% | Hands: 34]
SB ($210.37) [VPIP: 23.7% | PFR: 7.9% | AGG: 41.7% | Hands: 39]
BB ($280.80) [VPIP: 8.6% | PFR: 8.6% | AGG: 33.3% | Hands: 35]
HERO ($200)
EP ($183.63) [VPIP: 12.5% | PFR: 6.3% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 16]

Dealt to Hero: A♠ Q♠

HERO Raises To $6, EP Folds, MP Folds, HJ Folds, CO Calls $6, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Folds

Hero SPR on Flop: [12.93 effective]
Flop ($15): T♠ J♠ J♦
HERO Bets $7.13 (Rem. Stack: $186.87), CO Raises To $35.64 (Rem. Stack: $172.68), HERO Calls $28.51 (Rem. Stack: $158.36)

Turn ($86.28): T♠ J♠ J♦ 5♥
HERO Checks, CO Bets $61.71 (Rem. Stack: $110.97), HERO Folds

Spoiler alert!

#6263 August 19th, 2020, 11:08 PM

NL Holdem 2(BB)
CO ($214.32) [VPIP: 15.4% | PFR: 10.3% | AGG: 22.2% | Flop Agg: 20% | Turn Agg: 33.3% | 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 15.4% | Hands 40

For me off those stats he's basically saying he has TT or a strong Jx. With you in EP hes saying he can beat AA or has a strong draw.
KQs and maybe 89s are about the only draws I can see.
I dont think he folds anything if you reraise on the flop so thats a coinflip or slightly worse.
There is though some uncertainty with only 40 odd hands.

If you are only chasing a flush you don't really have the odds to call the flop.

#6264 August 21st, 2020, 8:16 PM

Originally Posted by LevySystem

Hello John,

I was wondering if it's possible to grind them on a desktop? Like are these type of rooms mobile only and if yes can you emulate them, or is it even allowed to do so?

And what about handhistories ?

Yes you can grind them on a desktop. We have two solutions, either Drivehud, which has an internal catcher built in, or a stand alone app - asian hand converter, which can be used with other HUDs like hm3/2, pt4, etc...

https://drivehud.com/asianhandconverter/

Our converters work extremely well with several emualors, Ldplayer, Nox, and bluestacks.

#6265 August 21st, 2020, 8:19 PM

Originally Posted by or3o1990

This one was fun but confusing. I have the monster draw but many of my outs are going to be no good. I'd be happy with a low spade or the Ks for sure but other than those cards I'm not sure which if any of my outs besides Ks are good. This felt grimey...

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD http://drivehud.com/?t=hh Software

NL Holdem 2(BB)
MP ($448.04) [VPIP: 50% | PFR: 8.3% | AGG: 47.8% | Hands: 24]
HJ ($279.83) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 100% | Hands: 17]
CO ($214.32) [VPIP: 15.4% | PFR: 10.3% | AGG: 22.2% | Flop Agg: 20% | Turn Agg: 33.3% | 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 15.4% | Hands: 40]
BTN ($204.73) [VPIP: 20.6% | PFR: 20.6% | AGG: 50% | Hands: 34]
SB ($210.37) [VPIP: 23.7% | PFR: 7.9% | AGG: 41.7% | Hands: 39]
BB ($280.80) [VPIP: 8.6% | PFR: 8.6% | AGG: 33.3% | Hands: 35]
HERO ($200)
EP ($183.63) [VPIP: 12.5% | PFR: 6.3% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 16]

Dealt to Hero: A♠ Q♠

HERO Raises To $6, EP Folds, MP Folds, HJ Folds, CO Calls $6, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Folds

Hero SPR on Flop: [12.93 effective]
Flop ($15): T♠ J♠ J♦
HERO Bets $7.13 (Rem. Stack: $186.87), CO Raises To $35.64 (Rem. Stack: $172.68), HERO Calls $28.51 (Rem. Stack: $158.36)

Turn ($86.28): T♠ J♠ J♦ 5♥
HERO Checks, CO Bets $61.71 (Rem. Stack: $110.97), HERO Folds

Spoiler alert!

Yeah, with a monster nut flush draw OOP there, it's better to c/c. Especially with the amounts people are betting ranges now a days, it's just a much better play rather than gambling for stacks.

#6266 September 3rd, 2020, 10:18 PM

For anyone using Drivehud in here, are there any specific tutorials you'd want more details about? We're doing some more series and was looking for feedback. Ty!

#6267 September 25th, 2020, 12:21 PM

I was playing tight and had just lost a 44$ pot to UTG2 AK v AQ the previous hand.
CO is a decent reg who likes to 3bet me in position.
I was suprised by his flat here, flop hits his range hard here. I'm not sure on flop bet sizing and turn check, any suggested improvements and are you calling it off?

Pacific, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $50.45 (100.9 bb)
BB: $47.56 (95.1 bb)
UTG+2: $72.20 (144.4 bb) VPIP: 40, PFR: 12, 3B: 6, AF: 1.3, Hands: 85 FISHY
MP1: $52.80 (105.6 bb)
Hero (MP2): $52.59 (105.2 bb)
MP3: $51.59 (103.2 bb)
CO: $62.20 (124.4 bb)VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 8, AF: 2.7, Hands: 2212
BTN: $49 (98 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K♥ K♦
UTG+2 raises to $1, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $4, MP3 folds, CO calls $4, 3 folds, UTG+2 calls $3

Flop: ($12.75) T♣ J♥ 9♠ (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $4.20, CO calls $4.20, UTG+2 folds

Turn: ($21.15) 7♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $8.01, Hero calls $8.01

River: ($37.17) 8♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $45.99 and is all-in, Hero?

#6268 October 2nd, 2020, 6:10 AM

Originally Posted by John A

For anyone using Drivehud in here, are there any specific tutorials you'd want more details about? We're doing some more series and was looking for feedback. Ty!

If you could make some vids using the range analyzer and charts from the hh replayer I'd be into it.

Have you been playing much lately?

#6269 October 2nd, 2020, 6:27 AM

Originally Posted by Figaroo2

I was playing tight and had just lost a 44$ pot to UTG2 AK v AQ the previous hand.
CO is a decent reg who likes to 3bet me in position.
I was suprised by his flat here, flop hits his range hard here. I'm not sure on flop bet sizing and turn check, any suggested improvements and are you calling it off?

Pacific, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $50.45 (100.9 bb)
BB: $47.56 (95.1 bb)
UTG+2: $72.20 (144.4 bb) VPIP: 40, PFR: 12, 3B: 6, AF: 1.3, Hands: 85 FISHY
MP1: $52.80 (105.6 bb)
Hero (MP2): $52.59 (105.2 bb)
MP3: $51.59 (103.2 bb)
CO: $62.20 (124.4 bb)VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 8, AF: 2.7, Hands: 2212
BTN: $49 (98 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K♥ K♦
UTG+2 raises to $1, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $4, MP3 folds, CO calls $4, 3 folds, UTG+2 calls $3

Flop: ($12.75) T♣ J♥ 9♠ (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $4.20, CO calls $4.20, UTG+2 folds

Turn: ($21.15) 7♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $8.01, Hero calls $8.01

River: ($37.17) 8♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $45.99 and is all-in, Hero?

This is a shitty spot but if i may suggest getting him to 4bet you pre? it'd make this a lot easier to play lol..

The only thing I really do not like is the flop sizing. I'd bet pot or near it if i was to bet. I'd prefer a check especially against a good opponent.

I would not call that river and I would consider check folding the turn. Unless he's passive on the river and will allow a showdown often we're just going to get punished every time.

So if it were me I probably would have c/c flop then c/f the turn. no shame, this board just sucks for KK

#6270 October 14th, 2020, 5:46 PM

Originally Posted by Figaroo2

I was playing tight and had just lost a 44$ pot to UTG2 AK v AQ the previous hand.
CO is a decent reg who likes to 3bet me in position.
I was suprised by his flat here, flop hits his range hard here. I'm not sure on flop bet sizing and turn check, any suggested improvements and are you calling it off?

Pacific, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $50.45 (100.9 bb)
BB: $47.56 (95.1 bb)
UTG+2: $72.20 (144.4 bb) VPIP: 40, PFR: 12, 3B: 6, AF: 1.3, Hands: 85 FISHY
MP1: $52.80 (105.6 bb)
Hero (MP2): $52.59 (105.2 bb)
MP3: $51.59 (103.2 bb)
CO: $62.20 (124.4 bb)VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 8, AF: 2.7, Hands: 2212
BTN: $49 (98 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K♥ K♦
UTG+2 raises to $1, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $4, MP3 folds, CO calls $4, 3 folds, UTG+2 calls $3

Flop: ($12.75) T♣ J♥ 9♠ (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $4.20, CO calls $4.20, UTG+2 folds

Turn: ($21.15) 7♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $8.01, Hero calls $8.01

River: ($37.17) 8♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $45.99 and is all-in, Hero?

Turn you can c/f since this was a MW flop. As played, I think you can call for the split. If your read is correct the only Q he should have is QQ, which is a bit unlikely.

#6271 October 31st, 2020, 3:38 PM

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

Hero (SB): $12.65 (126.5 bb)
BB: $11.81 (118.1 bb)
UTG+2: $11.40 (114 bb)
MP1: $5.07 (50.7 bb)
MP2: $16.06 (160.6 bb)VPIP: 24, PFR: 17, 3B: 6, AF: 1.5, Hands: 116 FT3b 0 in 4.
MP3: $5.08 (50.8 bb)
CO: $10.63 (106.3 bb)
BTN: $6.23 (62.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q♦ Q♥
UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $0.10, MP2 raises to $0.30, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.10, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.80

Flop: ($2.40) J♠ Q♣ T♠ (2 players)
Hero bets $0.95, MP2 raises to $1.90, Hero calls $0.95

Turn: ($6.20) 5♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $2.96, Hero?
Smells like AK but could also be sets and some flush draws. what line do you fancy from here?

#6272 November 12th, 2020, 4:51 AM

Originally Posted by Figaroo2

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

Hero (SB): $12.65 (126.5 bb)
BB: $11.81 (118.1 bb)
UTG+2: $11.40 (114 bb)
MP1: $5.07 (50.7 bb)
MP2: $16.06 (160.6 bb)VPIP: 24, PFR: 17, 3B: 6, AF: 1.5, Hands: 116 FT3b 0 in 4.
MP3: $5.08 (50.8 bb)
CO: $10.63 (106.3 bb)
BTN: $6.23 (62.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q♦ Q♥
UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $0.10, MP2 raises to $0.30, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.10, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.80

Flop: ($2.40) J♠ Q♣ T♠ (2 players)
Hero bets $0.95, MP2 raises to $1.90, Hero calls $0.95

Turn: ($6.20) 5♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $2.96, Hero?
Smells like AK but could also be sets and some flush draws. what line do you fancy from here?

Call turn, check river. If he has a set or T he's going to bet the river, and that's when you shove, not before. You want to keep all his bluffs in.

#6273 November 16th, 2020, 9:10 PM

Pacific, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

Hero (SB): $50 (100 bb)
BB: $63.06 (126.1 bb)VPIP: 47, PFR: 15, 3B: 0, AF: 3.1, Hands: 194 <(())><
UTG+1: $137.15 (274.3 bb)
UTG+2: $50 (100 bb)
MP1: $90.58 (181.2 bb)VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 3, AF: 2.7, Hands: 175
MP2: $57.15 (114.3 bb)
MP3: $79.62 (159.2 bb)
CO: $22.80 (45.6 bb)
BTN: $51.42 (102.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J♣ J♠
2 folds, MP1 raises to $1.50, 4 folds, Hero raises to $4.50, BB calls $4, MP1 raises to $12.65, Hero calls $8.15, BB calls $8.15
MP1 has 10% 4bet, small sample but too high to fold JJ methinks. I'm concerned by the low 3B though for an otherwise medium aggressive player. The presence of the fish is a small concern, I feel like it strenghtens the range of MP1 taking away most of his A5s type bluffs. He should need a hand to take on a potential calling station fish.

Flop: ($37.95) 3♥ Q♥ Q♣ (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP1 bets $11.90, Hero calls $11.90, BB folds I don't think I can fold to this sizing with all his bluffs still present. Calling looks the only real option. I was hoping the fish was going to hang around on the flop as it means MP will need a hand to fire the turn.

Turn: ($61.75) T♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $29.34, Hero?

If we give him a 4bet range of JJ-AA AK and all his bluffs in we have around 50% equity so standard call?

#6274 November 26th, 2020, 7:24 PM

I'd lean towards a fold pre-flop. Being OOP in a MW 4-bet pot is almost never good (unless you have something better than JJ).

As played, I'd fold the flop as well. This is std GTO sizing in this spot. He's betting MW as the pre-flop aggressor. I'd give him credit and dump the hand.

Turn is a fold also. I don't think you can expect him to double barrel bluff AK here, especially with his sizing. He should have very few bluffs at this point really, so it's almost all value.

#6275 December 7th, 2020, 7:08 AM

Originally Posted by Figaroo2

Pacific, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

Hero (SB): $50 (100 bb)
BB: $63.06 (126.1 bb)VPIP: 47, PFR: 15, 3B: 0, AF: 3.1, Hands: 194 <(())><
UTG+1: $137.15 (274.3 bb)
UTG+2: $50 (100 bb)
MP1: $90.58 (181.2 bb)VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 3, AF: 2.7, Hands: 175
MP2: $57.15 (114.3 bb)
MP3: $79.62 (159.2 bb)
CO: $22.80 (45.6 bb)
BTN: $51.42 (102.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J♣ J♠
2 folds, MP1 raises to $1.50, 4 folds, Hero raises to $4.50, BB calls $4, MP1 raises to $12.65, Hero calls $8.15, BB calls $8.15
MP1 has 10% 4bet, small sample but too high to fold JJ methinks. I'm concerned by the low 3B though for an otherwise medium aggressive player. The presence of the fish is a small concern, I feel like it strenghtens the range of MP1 taking away most of his A5s type bluffs. He should need a hand to take on a potential calling station fish.

Flop: ($37.95) 3♥ Q♥ Q♣ (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP1 bets $11.90, Hero calls $11.90, BB folds I don't think I can fold to this sizing with all his bluffs still present. Calling looks the only real option. I was hoping the fish was going to hang around on the flop as it means MP will need a hand to fire the turn.

Turn: ($61.75) T♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $29.34, Hero?

If we give him a 4bet range of JJ-AA AK and all his bluffs in we have around 50% equity so standard call?

Glad your still playing FIG. One thing i do remember even though its been ages is playing TT or JJ from the blinds, cold calling is just terrible in these spots you either have to play them a lot more aggressive or fold. Cold calling OOP is bleeding money imo.... this flop is pretty good for us, we should be great most of the time .... ugh i thought check-raise flop but this is bad considering we will be giving free cards to the hearts, we will need to lead.... OOP we have to have tempo with our hard hands or we get crushed by our terrible positon.

#6276 December 17th, 2020, 8:27 PM

Originally Posted by Aces2w1n

Glad your still playing FIG. One thing i do remember even though its been ages is playing TT or JJ from the blinds, cold calling is just terrible in these spots you either have to play them a lot more aggressive or fold. Cold calling OOP is bleeding money imo.... this flop is pretty good for us, we should be great most of the time .... ugh i thought check-raise flop but this is bad considering we will be giving free cards to the hearts, we will need to lead.... OOP we have to have tempo with our hard hands or we get crushed by our terrible positon.

The funny thing is that since more people play a more GTO game they play less aggressive with a lot of their ranges then they have in years past. There's a lot more checking on the flop or turn then in the past, and as a result your cold calling ranges can expand. There's more factors occurring as well, and I'm not going to get into all of them because that would amost be a book's worth of info, but essentially cold calling ranges in today's games have changed.

#6277 December 25th, 2020, 12:05 AM

Happy holidays everyone! I hope everyone has a safe and fun holiday season.

I haven't been playing very much over the past year+, but I still monitor this post if you run across some difficult hands or just want some general poker advice.

#6278 December 25th, 2020, 8:25 AM

Hi guys, just wanted to take a minute to wish you a very merry Christmas and a happy year, most of all good health! These days people don't spend much time or thought on some personal words to their friends and family, they just copy and paste some random message and send it on. So after all we've been though together this year I want to thank you for your friendship and wish you a happy and fulfilling 2018 - you�re the best gymnastics group anyone could ask for. Best wishes, Helen

#6279 December 25th, 2020, 2:53 PM

Happy Chistmas to all!

#6280 December 25th, 2020, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by Figaroo2

Hi guys, just wanted to take a minute to wish you a very merry Christmas and a happy year, most of all good health! These days people don't spend much time or thought on some personal words to their friends and family, they just copy and paste some random message and send it on. So after all we've been though together this year I want to thank you for your friendship and wish you a happy and fulfilling 2018 - you�re the best gymnastics group anyone could ask for. Best wishes, Helen

Lol. Happy holidays guys!!

#6281 December 28th, 2020, 9:41 PM

Originally Posted by Figaroo2

Hi guys, just wanted to take a minute to wish you a very merry Christmas and a happy year, most of all good health! These days people don't spend much time or thought on some personal words to their friends and family, they just copy and paste some random message and send it on. So after all we've been though together this year I want to thank you for your friendship and wish you a happy and fulfilling 2018 - you�re the best gymnastics group anyone could ask for. Best wishes, Helen

Agreed. Especially now in these times it's important to remember and value all your friends and family, and make that special extra effort to show that appreciation. With love, Frank.

#6282 January 15th, 2021, 11:39 PM

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD http://drivehud.com/?t=hh and Database Software

NL Holdem 1.00(BB)
BB (73.6) [VPIP: 22.6% | PFR: 9.7% | AGG: 15.4% | Hands: 31]
HJ (81.3) [VPIP: 15.2% | PFR: 6.1% | AGG: 9.7% | Hands: 99]
CO (106.1) [VPIP: 22.7% | PFR: 9.3% | AGG: 16.7% | Hands: 76]
HERO (105.3) [VPIP: 31.5% | PFR: 24.4% | AGG: 37.9% | Hands: 5164]
SB (103.4) [VPIP: 13.3% | PFR: 12% | AGG: 21.4% | Hands: 87]

Dealt to Hero: T♦ A♦

HJ Raises To 3 BBs, CO Calls 3, HERO Calls 3, SB Folds, BB Folds

Hero SPR on Flop: [7.46 effective]
Flop (10.5): T♣ T♥ 4♥
HJ Bets 5 (Rem. Stack: 73.3), CO Calls 5 (Rem. Stack: 98.1), HERO Calls 5 (Rem. Stack: 97.3)

Turn (25.5): T♣ T♥ 4♥ 7♣
HJ Checks, CO Checks, HERO Bets 13.1 (Rem. Stack: 84.2), HJ Calls 13.1 (Rem. Stack: 60.2), CO Calls 13.1 (Rem. Stack: 85)

River (64.9): T♣ T♥ 4♥ 7♣ K♥
HJ Checks, CO Checks, HERO Checks

#6283 January 16th, 2021, 3:22 AM

Originally Posted by John A

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NL Holdem 1.00(BB)
BB (73.6) [VPIP: 22.6% | PFR: 9.7% | AGG: 15.4% | Hands: 31]
HJ (81.3) [VPIP: 15.2% | PFR: 6.1% | AGG: 9.7% | Hands: 99]
CO (106.1) [VPIP: 22.7% | PFR: 9.3% | AGG: 16.7% | Hands: 76]
HERO (105.3) [VPIP: 31.5% | PFR: 24.4% | AGG: 37.9% | Hands: 5164]
SB (103.4) [VPIP: 13.3% | PFR: 12% | AGG: 21.4% | Hands: 87]

Dealt to Hero: T♦ A♦

HJ Raises To 3 BBs, CO Calls 3, HERO Calls 3, SB Folds, BB Folds

Hero SPR on Flop: [7.46 effective]
Flop (10.5): T♣ T♥ 4♥
HJ Bets 5 (Rem. Stack: 73.3), CO Calls 5 (Rem. Stack: 98.1), HERO Calls 5 (Rem. Stack: 97.3)

Turn (25.5): T♣ T♥ 4♥ 7♣
HJ Checks, CO Checks, HERO Bets 13.1 (Rem. Stack: 84.2), HJ Calls 13.1 (Rem. Stack: 60.2), CO Calls 13.1 (Rem. Stack: 85)

River (64.9): T♣ T♥ 4♥ 7♣ K♥
HJ Checks, CO Checks, HERO Checks

I like the passive preflop line against the PFR, as its opening is quite narrow. Only 6% of the hands, trusting that the sample is randomized. We also have a position on the villains and we want to keep their rangues intact and without eliminations.
On the flop we are blocking hands that represent fold equity for us, such as Ad-9d and Ad-5d, as they have their SDV neutralized against 2 ranges perceived as strong or closed. For this reason, I prefer to extract value from combos of flush draws and some medium pockets, trusting that we have not altered the Vs ranges in preflop.
On the turn I'm pushing my stack, and we don't expect too much folds, when we represent dominated draws and the villains have the best flush draw combos for this texture.
We also unlock up to 3 spade combos as bluff catchers: AK-AJ, for when they don't believe us. And only we are behind a maximum of 8 combos that beat us on the turn.
As played, the turn bet is correct and also I agree with the check line OTR, because our perceived range is quite weak and the K favors the HJ range with the best full house scale.
Greetings.

#6284 January 16th, 2021, 11:37 AM

Preflop is fine with me as well.
It feels to me like we are missing some value in this hand.
We could raise the flop, I'd expect the nits overpairs to call and the 2nd players flush draws.
We could bet a little bigger on the turn maybe 17-18bb
and/or bet the river.
As played the river King firmly hits the nits range I think we can bet the river about 30-40% pot and get called here by AK. These sort of low aggro players rarely bluff raise the river.

#6285 January 24th, 2021, 6:31 PM

Originally Posted by Figaroo2

Preflop is fine with me as well.
It feels to me like we are missing some value in this hand.
We could raise the flop, I'd expect the nits overpairs to call and the 2nd players flush draws.
We could bet a little bigger on the turn maybe 17-18bb
and/or bet the river.
As played the river King firmly hits the nits range I think we can bet the river about 30-40% pot and get called here by AK. These sort of low aggro players rarely bluff raise the river.

What would my range be for raising a paired board MW though?

Turn sizing, most people on other forums thought was too big. I kind of split the middle since I'm not really in this spot a lot and I'm looking to get value from over pairs and draws.

River is pretty close. Of course I want value from worse Tx, but the problem is you'd expect them to raise at some point, so most of my opponents range is going to draws (some connected) and over pairs.

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