polarised 3b ranges - important fundamentals ive forgotten

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alright so i have some shiz to clarify...

were sitting in the SB w XX. player OTB has an open % from the BTN of 33%, and he folds to 70% of 3bs over a billion hand sample.

we should be playing this guy with a polarised 3b range. say were doing TT-AA + AKs/o, AQs for value, those hands should make up 1/3 of our 3b range, correct?
And the hands we use for the bluffs in our 3b range should be the other 2/3 right?

that would mean our value range would be 3.8%, and our bluff range would be 7.6% (not gunna list what hands i prefer to use as my bluff range, although it should be obvious), giving us a total 3b range of 11.4%

^ is this all correct slash the ideal way to play vs the guy whose sitting OTB? (for the sake of this example, assume BB is playing 0/0 over a million hands)
 
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Any chance of a 2k post about crushing the micros...you did promise some time back...
 
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i did, but im not kidding man ive seriously forgotten a lot in my time off. adjusting from online 6m play to playing live with 6-8 complete fish requires a serious adaptation in strategy.

so i dont know when the post will be, but it will come eventually
 
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i did, but im not kidding man ive seriously forgotten a lot in my time off. adjusting from online 6m play to playing live with 6-8 complete fish requires a serious adaptation in strategy.

so i dont know when the post will be, but it will come eventually

Hahaha, so you are playing live now, good stuff, maybe you could do a strat on live fish too, coz I won't be long till some of us try the live scene...good lad, look forward to a 20k post on crushing the nanos, when you can fkn remember again....anyway back to this topic, you say 2/3 for the 3bet polarization %'s....what's the third range?...
 
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If there were no postflop play, your range would be close to game theory optimal. However, I'd say your bluff range is probs too wide. And AQ/TT are borderline too.
 
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Sorry, can someone plz explain why the value:bluff ratio should be 1:2? Does that apply to this villain or is that a general strategy?
 
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I think merging your range by adding in more marginal hands, and dropping some pure bluffs would give you more of an edge since you would to exploit his "unexploitable play" by getting loose calls vs. your stronger range. That said, you seem to be a stronger player than me so playing out of position amy not be as much of a leak for you as it is for me.
 
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Sorry, can someone plz explain why the value:bluff ratio should be 1:2? Does that apply to this villain or is that a general strategy?


Cause he is folding to 3B 70%? I am assuming this is specifically for this guy in this situation....
 
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if he's positionally aware he's gonna be flatting/4betting wider than those stats though.

prefer a merged range vs regs who are gonna flat wide IP vs a supposed polarised range weighted towards bluffs..

but if you want a math answer ask scourge :)
 
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Turns out I have almost no idea what you guys are talking about. I am just the worst at maths and this might actually be what is holding me back.
 
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Cause he is folding to 3B 70%? I am assuming this is specifically for this guy in this situation....

no no no nice try :D

It depends on the sizing of the 3bet 4bet war but its to keep you balanced so you're not folding to 4bets too much and im sure if youre bluffing 1:2 value to bluff in todays games this is probably slightly too bluff heavy where someone can 4bet bluff ATC and profit vs you, however, if someones folding to 70% of 3bets there is a good case for being unbalanced towards bluffs!
 
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