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Is a re-raise or a call the best +ev with pocket queens? Does position change what you should do? Also does the type of villian change what you do?
 
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Umm, I think you should always be raising. But their is a lot more info needed to answer your question. Cash or tourneys, position, table size, reads on other players, bets before you, etc, etc...
 
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what im asking is if your facing a 3x big blind raise wats the best line to take, just a call or a re-raise. Lets say you and villain have equal stacks and u have position.
 
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I don't know what is the right thing to do but I call those, if you got possion its even better. although if its a lose player he might do it with almost any card.
 
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There's a lot of factors to determine, most importantly stack size...generally you want to be raising/reraising with QQ though
 
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Personally if I have position I'll almost always call in late pos with them.

The main times I raise in late pos is if I know the early pos player is a person who loves to play A-rag.
 
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I myself would call, that is the bet I would have wanted to make. If the flop has no A or K I would raise pot. A and I would be careful. With the 3xBB raise, they most likely don't have a small pocket pair.
 
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QQ usually always deserve at least a raise if nobody else has already done so. It also depends on your position at the table and how many players are in the pot. Sometimes I might try and be tricky and just smoothly call the queens, and if everything goes well on the flop I might try and trap opposing players.
 
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Is a re-raise or a call the best +ev with pocket queens? Does position change what you should do? Also does the type of villian change what you do?


It depends on just about every conceivable variable of poker. i.e:

- my stack
- my position
- type of game
- state of game
- opponent's stack(s)
- number of opponents
- number of players yet to act
- what I know about players yet to act
- what I don't know about players yet to act
- previous hand
- previous ten hands
- previous encounters with (potential) villain
- phase of the moon

Ok, I kid about the phase of the moon, but I reckon I've made my point.
 
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Pocket queens is of course a great starting hand but I would not want to mess around with them if there is a bunch of other people in the pot. The ladies will get cracked.
 
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Raise like a mofo with pocket :qs4: :qc4: depending on position of course but I'm talking about most times imo.
 
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it depends on who is 3 betting you. Loose vs tight player and so on and so forth. More then ever I'd just call to see the flop since queens is a good starting hand but easily could be beaten. You do not want to raise if the person is known for having powerful starting hands and it also depends if your in a tourney or not and what pos vs when the money breaks and so forth.
 
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My strategy for pocket Qs is as follows...

EARLY PHASE:
if no raises{4xbb}, in front of you= u raise
if one raise in front of you= u still raise
if more than one raise in front of u = u fold

MIDDLE PHASE:
if no raise= u raise
if only one raise = u go allin
if more than one = u fold

This is wat i learnt from few strategy books..
But i have had only limited success with this approach...
so i have formed a new strategy for JJ, QQ and KK...
I see JJ as 44,
QQ as 55,
And KK as 99.
This approach worked very well for me...
 
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With the 3xBB raise, they most likely don't have a small pocket pair.

Um... what?

Where is the standard for raise amounts? In an unraised pot I'm dealt 66, I will make a standard raise based on the table of 3-4 BBs (unless it's an aggressive table or I'm short stacked, or a variety of other factors).

Same for AK-ATs, KQ-KTs,QJs, QTs, JTs, or AA-22. If I'm in position I'll open up that raise to suited one-gappers and non-suited connectors, for the record. Maybe if I'm running hot or know I can outplay the table I'll make the raise with one of those hands from out of position.

The idea that there is a standard amount of BBs to tip you off on somebody's hand is wrong. Some of the better players I've played against raise a random amount (3-4 red chips @5 each, and all their whites, for instance, at one each), or only vary their raises based on their position, (2.5 BBs from UTG, 4 BBs from button), or to isolate a pot (a raise and a reraise ahead of them, they wanna play their JJ heads up, they raise outlandishly, secretly hoping to take down a pot and not be already behind).

If you think a raise of 3x BBs means no small pocket pair, you are off your rocker or playing in a tremendously weak field.
 
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I think the best option is to re-raise :) It happened to me a bad beat in a freeroll...Q Q vs A A...This guy raise 25k I re-raise 50k and he went all-in...Woohoo:eek: The river is Q of course...
 
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you can raise, not to big but not to small so you can cut the number of players down, remember someone could have a pair bigger then you. Then the flop comes and if you hit a set then you know you can break him. I was just in a game where i had pocket AA but the player next to me when all in first with pocket K's, and another player with pocket 9's and one with pocket 3's.
 
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I will do a big raise if no one else raises, usually 25% of my stack(sometimes more, sometimes less). if someone else raises and it is less than about 10% of my stack i will call. pocket queens is only paired queens to start out
 
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I had QQ, big raise preflop, 2 callers. Flop came AJ4, I bet 2/3s pot to see if anybody has the A. One caller. I'm in position, he checks. I say "Ok, no use betting into an A here." River is Q. He bets, I'm all in, he calls, shows KTs, but no flush possibility.

Sick play on his part. Lucky catch and terrible card.
 
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I had QQ, big raise preflop, 2 callers. Flop came AJ4, I bet 2/3s pot to see if anybody has the A. One caller. I'm in position, he checks. I say "Ok, no use betting into an A here." River is Q. He bets, I'm all in, he calls, shows KTs, but no flush possibility.

Sick play on his part. Lucky catch and terrible card.

Lucky catch for sure. He shouldn't have called 3/4 pot bet on flop with a gutshot draw. I guess you played well by checking on turn and controlling the pot size, specially after he called your flop bet.
 
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Lucky catch for sure. He shouldn't have called 3/4 pot bet on flop with a gutshot draw. I guess you played well by checking on turn and controlling the pot size, specially after he called your flop bet.

3/4s is too large but i think mostly he thought he would get paid off big if he did call... and really, he was right.
 
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i love pokcet QQs my first hand that i've ever won a tournament with online. When i play it heads up i always re-raise, raise, jam it up. when it's short handed same thing but long handed i never re-reaise with QQ, either call a riase or be the intial raiser. It's far too dangerous at 9 handed tables
 
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Obviously a lot of factors as many others said, but just to eliminate most of them I'd personally focus on stack size, position, and tendencies of your opponents. IMO, with a lot of chips you're most likely going to have the bully persona (at least to other players), so a nice raise would certainly put you in a good spot with such a big PP. However, assuming you have an average sized stack, it's necessary to understand how your opponents play and where they sit in relation to you. If you are facing a limp from a loose call station, then I'd up the ante and see how the flop turns out knowing that they most likely won't bet and you can shut down if the flop is something like AK10. If, however, you are playing a tight player who raised from EP, then even on the button you're going to want to just call because of the strength this person is clearly showing. The benefit of position clearly shows itself in this third example: if facing a large raise or reraise from the mega-tight button in EP, it may be necessary to fold Qs: you always want to have the ability to see how your opponent opens. In conclusion, use pre-determined factors to make the (hopefully right) judgment call, but where everything really matters is after the flop comes out. Just make sure not to get too close to those big cards, and remember you can't always win them all, so if you get a bad beat just pick yourself up, dust yourself off, say good game and close the window.
 
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