pocket j's the problem hand

quazar66

quazar66

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Dec 17, 2005
Total posts
285
Chips
0
If you get fish hooks what would you do. With 3 over cards I dont like them much for a raise.I use them as a middle pair and try for a cheap flop. Then go for trips.
What do you do and why.
 
twizzybop

twizzybop

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Apr 24, 2005
Total posts
2,380
Chips
0
Treat them like I would any other normal top 10 pre flop hand, raise of course pre-flop, check to see what the board brings if anybody has called my pre-flop raise. Normally do a continuation bet, hopefully taking it down right there.
Not to mention any reads I may or may not have on my opponent(s)

The go from there..
 
shortstacked

shortstacked

Visionary
Silver Level
Joined
May 29, 2006
Total posts
663
Chips
0
jacks well for me at time I play them like a 72 I been looking at my PT stata and pocket jacks I have lost more monet with the pocket 2's I dont like thme much un less I can get in really really cheap
 
S

scifell

Enthusiast
Silver Level
Joined
Aug 22, 2006
Total posts
45
Chips
0
It depends on the situation, but if I am first to the pot I am definately raising (from any position) to help drive out any weak aces, kings, or queens and narrow the playing field. After that, it is a matter of what everyone else seems to be doing and what the board looks like.
 
buckster436

buckster436

Cardschat Hall of Famer - RIP Buck
Silver Level
Joined
Mar 25, 2005
Total posts
15,125
Awards
2
Chips
0
Depends how lucky i feel and How Many Chips i have, if i get in cheap and 2 overcards fall they go in the muck, also depends on my position at that moment and how many limped in.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> buck:joyman:
 
t1riel

t1riel

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
May 20, 2005
Total posts
6,919
Awards
1
Chips
16
Pocket Jacks are the kind of hand you raise with, not the kind of hand to showdown and win with, much like A, K. Be aggressive with them, even if there is an overcard on the flop. When players are not backing down, check/fold.
 
bubbasbestbabe

bubbasbestbabe

Suckout Queen
Silver Level
Joined
May 22, 2005
Total posts
10,646
Awards
1
Chips
7
Treat them like I would any other normal top 10 pre flop hand, raise of course pre-flop, check to see what the board brings if anybody has called my pre-flop raise. Normally do a continuation bet, hopefully taking it down right there.
Not to mention any reads I may or may not have on my opponent(s)

The go from there..


Sounds good to me.
 
Egon Towst

Egon Towst

Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
Joined
Jun 26, 2006
Total posts
6,794
Chips
0
So much depends on the situation. Earlier today I folded them preflop when a player to my right, who I knew to be tight, came in for 5 BBs. Sure enough, he turned out to have pocket Kings, and the guy who called wound up losing half his stack.

If it had come round to me unraised, I`d have probably raised myself, because this table was pretty passive and I`d have had a reasonable chance of buying the pot with a continuation bet even if I missed the flop.

At a more aggressive table, I`d limp in hoping to hit a set. At this kind of table, a hidden hand like that can be gold dust because there will often be another player who will bet it for you and help you clean up.
 
brutus

brutus

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Jul 29, 2006
Total posts
1,028
Chips
0
pokerstars Game #6087349941: Tournament #30847930, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em
No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/08/28 - 20:00:59 (ET)
Table '30847930 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Lois2006 (1130 in chips)
Seat 2: restingbird (1420 in chips)
Seat 3: hoffmann05 (1450 in chips)
Seat 4: framag6 (1770 in chips)
Seat 5: brutus34 (820 in chips)
Seat 6: jfhtx (1020 in chips)
Seat 7: PurpleHaz888 (2990 in chips)
Seat 8: Tull (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: Frikeon (1400 in chips)
PurpleHaz888: posts small blind 10
Tull: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to brutus34 [Ad Qd]
Frikeon: folds
Lois2006: raises 100 to 120
restingbird has timed out
restingbird: folds
restingbird is sitting out
hoffmann05: folds
framag6: calls 120
brutus34: raises 700 to 820 and is all-in
jfhtx: folds
restingbird has returned
PurpleHaz888: folds
Tull: folds
Lois2006: calls 700
framag6: raises 700 to 1520
Lois2006: calls 310 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [Jh Kh Ah]
*** TURN *** [Jh Kh Ah] [3c]
*** RIVER *** [Jh Kh Ah 3c] [6d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Lois2006: shows [Jd Js] (three of a kind, Jacks)
framag6: shows [Ts Jc] (a pair of Jacks)
Lois2006 collected 620 from side pot
brutus34: shows [Ad Qd] (a pair of Aces)
Lois2006 collected 2490 from main pot
:bawling:
 
Egon Towst

Egon Towst

Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
Joined
Jun 26, 2006
Total posts
6,794
Chips
0
Why such a big push preflop with AQs so early in the SnG, Brutus ? Surely you don`t need to take that kind of risk.

I would think it would have been enough to call. Then, when the flop came you`d have had top pair and a straight draw, which is pretty strong, but there`d have been the flush threat against you and, depending how the betting went, you`d have maybe bailed out and kept enough chips to still have some prospects.
 
KerouacsDog

KerouacsDog

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Mar 26, 2006
Total posts
9,410
Chips
0
Why such a big push preflop with AQs so early in the SnG, Brutus ? Surely you don`t need to take that kind of risk.

I would think it would have been enough to call. Then, when the flop came you`d have had top pair and a straight draw, which is pretty strong, but there`d have been the flush threat against you and, depending how the betting went, you`d have maybe bailed out and kept enough chips to still have some prospects.
ditto. he raised 5 xBB so flat call, and play from the flop. dont raise the BB 41 times!!!!!!!!!
 
brutus

brutus

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Jul 29, 2006
Total posts
1,028
Chips
0
honestly i dont know what i was thinking. most any other time i wouldve just called the raise and waited for the flop, why i didnt do it this time i couldnt tell ya. when the flop came i woulda had a tough decision to make, but if one of em would have pushed post flop i woulda figured on one of em possibly hitting the flush or two pair and more than likely bailed.
 
P

ph_il

...
Silver Level
Joined
Feb 5, 2005
Total posts
10,128
Awards
1
Chips
25
Raise or reraise with jacks to represent that you have a big hand. After the flop it would depend on the players in the hand with me. Hopefully my raise scared off most of the players and Im up against 2-3 other players. If an overcard hits the board, I wouldnt fear it immediately-I would determine if an any of my opponents could be holding that particular card.

I play a lot more brick and mortar poker though..

Online: if its one over, I'll bet out and see where Im at. If its 2 or more, I'll give some credit for having me beat and hopefully just check it down.
 
Starting Hands - Poker Hand Nicknames Rankings - Poker Hands
Top