PLO shortstacked?

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I posted this in another thread but for some reason it was closed with only 3 thoroughly useless responses after a day, so here goes again. I was watching a video of a nosebleed PLO cash game yesterday, and one of the guys on there was only buying in for 20BB. I got to thinking that maybe this is a good strategy to play PLO with. Since your short stacked you would be forced to go all in more often, but when you do you are risking a fifth of what you would if you were full stacked. This means you would be able to see 5 all in hands for the same price as 1, and since omaha is a drawing game you are really going to push draws so, the way I see it, you want to see as many draws as you can and as cheaply as possible and putting up only 20BB seems like a good way to do this. What do you think about this. Good? Bad? I have never played omaha so I figured I might give it a shot with this strategy.
 
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A mod closed your thread and you make another one exactly the same? LoL

In before ban hammer!
 
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Kinda sad when this guy has to make two threads, and still doesn't get a serious response. Sure, he has no clue what he's talking about, but that doesn't mean that he doesn't deserve a straight answer.

1) Buying in short at microstakes is a terrible idea. Microstakes players give up a pretty large edge, especially on later streets. Giving this edge up is horrible.
2) The reason players buy in shorter at high stakes is because they're likely trying to exploit opponent's early street (preflop/flop) play.
3) The highest stakes are called nosebleed stakes, since at higher altitudes, the dry air causes nosebleeds. Hence why playing at high stakes (or sitting at seats high up in a stadium) is called "the nosebleeds".
 
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Kinda sad when this guy has to make two threads, and still doesn't get a serious response. Sure, he has no clue what he's talking about, but that doesn't mean that he doesn't deserve a straight answer.

1) Buying in short at microstakes is a terrible idea. Microstakes players give up a pretty large edge, especially on later streets. Giving this edge up is horrible.

I don't think you understand that pro shortstackers make the most money out of everyone, especially on euro sites, due to rakeback, rake races, volume.

I hope that doesn't encourage someone here to start ssing.
 
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I don't think you understand that pro shortstackers make the most money out of everyone, especially on euro sites, due to rakeback, rake races, volume.
Pro SS'ers aren't playing $0.05/$0.10 PLO, like the OP likely is. And even if they are, that's not the most profitable way to play small stakes games.

If he had come here saying something like "I want to play short stacked strategy in the 200bb deep $5/$10 PLO game with antes, how do I do this" then we'd have a whole 'nother thread entirely (where we mostly just tell him how short stackers can go to hell).
 
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Pro SS'ers aren't playing $0.05/$0.10 PLO, like the OP likely is. And even if they are, that's not the most profitable way to play small stakes games.

If he had come here saying something like "I want to play short stacked strategy in the 200bb deep $5/$10 PLO game with antes, how do I do this" then we'd have a whole 'nother thread entirely (where we mostly just tell him how short stackers can go to hell).

Sadly I've come to the conclusion ss-ing is THE most profitable way to play micro / ssnl games at least. You can pm me if you want to know why I don't want to list the reasons here and start a trend
 
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Sadly I've come to the conclusion ss-ing is THE most profitable way to play micro / ssnl games at least. You can pm me if you want to know why I don't want to list the reasons here and start a trend

This sounds like an open invitation ;)
 
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I I got to thinking that maybe this is a good strategy to play PLO with. Since your short stacked you would be forced to go all in more often, but when you do you are risking a fifth of what you would if you were full stacked.
AND you are only making a fifth of what you would have made if you had just bought in full...
 
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Short-stacking in high stakes PLO games is a known pro strategy. The best source of information on the subject of which I am aware is this book. Don`t imagine that it`s an easy thing for a beginner to master, though, or that it`s applicable to microstakes. The book is aimed squarely at advanced players of medium and high stakes.
 
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Obv I should've kept my mouth shut, OP is probing me in pms on why ss-ing is profitable. lol @ people thinking his threads were anything else

This sounds like an open invitation ;)

Nope, it was meant for c9 only :)
 
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