Please help me understand something.

Please help me understand something.

I do very well at the $0.25/0.50, stakes. However if I try to play micro stakes like $0.01/0.02 or $0.05/0.10 I never win. It's like I'm just throwing money at all of the terrible players.
If the micro stakes are supposed to have more fish and worse players, then why is it that I'm constantly pummeled into the ground by all of these "terrible" players? I move up the stakes though and everything is fine.

the micro games are literally for fishing. People go all in with trash cards and win. It's a whole different type of game than the 0.25/0.50.

If you are good at the $ 0.25 / 0.50, stake, why do you play 0.01-0.02 stakes? Do not play micro stacks. Your game strategy does not match that limit. Each limit has its own characteristics. Because weak players, it does not affect the Cbets, 3 Bets, always given.

I had the same. It's normal. They cant understand the game. First of all, they always call -- never fold))) So you cant bluff them. Also, they are usually bluffing big))) Relax and play ABC poker with that guys or if you have nuts you can slow playing with aggressive stupid bluffers))

the low stakes tables are mostly owne by begginers or players what are doing missions etc and if ur going well at bigger stakes just play there?

There's a good chance that your sample size is just too small. Don't let yourself be fooled by good or bad results with such a small sample size.

Microlights - it's just a waste of time for those who are going to earn a game. Micro-limits are needed for those who only learn the basics of the game. People on NL2 either try the concepts from the last book they read about poker, or they are grinders who earn their living at this limit.

At NL2, people take the game seriously enough, and no one is trying to especially zabemblit or raise a large amount of money, so all those who want to get pleasure from the game, usually immediately go to higher limits. But you need them.

True. That people don’t care much about money. It’s an extra small money. They are not playing smart. You can’t analyze what they are you usually do. I was shocked. I thought I am bad player when I played such small limits. But when i went to the middle limits, I ve started to play in plus. So my advice— play comfort, play yr limits which makes you beeing in plus and forget about that hole.

I would just stick to playing your normal stakes and not even bother with .01/.02. There shouldn't be any reason to move downward in stakes if you're doing fine where you are now.

The isn't enough of a reward based on the risk you may have to take when playing .01/.02, because if you do hit/win, your profit will be small and if you're in the hand with 4 others, the chances are one of them will hit and you will lose the hand outright.

Adjust to your table

Regardless of how ‘bad’ people are and the fact that they ‘go in with anything’ should be irrelevant. You should change gears throughout your game and read the table. If everyone is a calling station, then tighten up and bet when you’re ahead. Trap then and value bet a bit more on the river etc. The same goes if they are always paying to see a flop. Maybe c-bet less and just call them off, as you know they will get money in the middle regardless if you are on a draw.

It shouldn’t matter how people play, and if anything, you should be happy that they are ‘bad players’

Hello.
If you play well at $ 0.25 / 0.50, then what's the problem?
You just do not play at other bets you lose.
Concentrate your attention only on what makes you profitable.

I wish i found it easier the higher up the stakes i moved.

I agree with others. If you are winning at the .50 cent level, you should be able to easily win at .01/.02.

.01/.02 level you just have to exploit player tendencies. For example keeping betting versus loose passive players until they take aggression vs you.

I've wondered the same thing. When I can't get anywhere at the lower stakes I move up a level or two, and - Voila! Like magic.

yazanrafe said:

Please help me understand something.

I do very well at the $0.25/0.50, stakes. However if I try to play micro stakes like $0.01/0.02 or $0.05/0.10 I never win. It's like I'm just throwing money at all of the terrible players.
If the micro stakes are supposed to have more fish and worse players, then why is it that I'm constantly pummeled into the ground by all of these "terrible" players? I move up the stakes though and everything is fine.

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I have been saying it for years...
Anything less than 50NL is a waste of time and money.
It's just a hair above play money - I don't recommend ANYONE play at those lowest stakes.

The less a player has to lose, the more reckless they play and it's at those times you find yourself losing to someone who hit a straight on the river when they started with a 2 5 off suit. .....

Smokewood said:

I have been saying it for years...
Anything less than 50NL is a waste of time and money.
It's just a hair above play money - I don't recommend ANYONE play at those lowest stakes.

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I would imagine if your a newcomer to poker and a losing player,50nl might be more of a waste of money.You don't learn faster at 50nl either the game essentially the same at any stakes.I find your view on lower stakes to be bordering on bizarre.

MettaGame said:

I would imagine if your a newcomer to poker and a losing player,50nl might be more of a waste of money.You don't learn faster at 50nl either the game is essentially the same at any stakes.I find your view of lower stakes to be bordering on bizarre.

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I'm sure you do... lol

A newcomer should play at home with family and friends first and learn several variants of poker. Then once comfortable with that, they should move on to play money tables to get a feel of how online software works and to try different games and formats. While doing this they should save up some cash from a JOB that they have.

Once they have about $500 saved up, deposit it all at the same time to the same site to take advantage of the bonus. Then start at 50NL and play on just 1 table and play TAG and move up when you have 10 buy-ins for the next level. 10 buy-ins are plenty enough when you have a JOB!!

Bottom line:
Have a full time job before you even try to play poker!

Smokewood said:

I'm sure you do... lol

A newcomer should play at home with family and friends first and learn several variants of poker. Then once comfortable with that, they should move on to play money tables to get a feel of how online software works and to try different games and formats. While doing this they should save up some cash from a JOB that they have.

Once they have about $500 saved up, deposit it all at the same time to the same site to take advantage of the bonus. Then start at 50NL and play on just 1 table and play TAG and move up when you have 10 buy-ins for the next level. 10 buy-ins are plenty enough when you have a JOB!!

Bottom line:
Have a full time job before you even try to play poker!

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I don't mean to be rude but this is all just quite honestly ridiculous.

MettaGame said:

I don't mean to be rude but this is all just quite honestly ridiculous.

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Care to elaborate or was just copying and pasting that comment from your last edit all you plan to share?

Smokewood said:

Care to elaborate or was just copying and pasting that comment from your last edit all you plan to share?

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Well firstly you don't think people with jobs play lower than 50nl ? secondly you don't seem to realaize $500 for you might not be a'lot of money.But could actually be a huge amount to other people in different parts of the world.It's possible someone could help supplement their lives from 5nl or 10nl.

You also say people should start with play money and then jump into 50nl ? i mean if that isn't bizarre logic i don't know what is.And other things like one tabling 50nl with a 10 buy in bankroll and losing is better than two/four tabling 2nl/20nl and winning.I think it's a very strange view about how to learn or build correct bankrolls.

If it works for you more power to you but i don't think you should so easily dismiss other peoples hard work and efforts as a waste of time.

Smokewood said:

I'm sure you do... lol

A newcomer should play at home with family and friends first and learn several variants of poker. Then once comfortable with that, they should move on to play money tables to get a feel of how online software works and to try different games and formats. While doing this they should save up some cash from a JOB that they have.

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Can i also ask rather than playing play money tables and saving $500.What is wrong with building to $500 from 2nl and working your way up.You then got $500 online and $500 in the bank that you saved up.Were not talking about people who can beat 50nl here were talking about beginners.

You play against better players whom have a better understanding. The fish just shove, shove, shove