Playing trash hands in late position

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I consider myself a fairly tight player, and whilst I am making profit at poker it is a very slow grind, as I just can't get any action because of my table image.

I'm fairly confident with my current playing style and think it's time to add a new element to it, so I was thinking of mixing things up a bit by playing a bit looser in late position. What I want to know is whether it is better to play lesser hands when there are a lot of limpers e.g. more money in the pot or when there are just a couple of limpers e.g. smaller range of hands to play against?
 
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I like to raise it up from late position if I am gonna play regardless of what my hand is, if their is alot of limpers. Reason if their limping thier ussally not that strong, then I can represent strength on the flop when it gets checked to me. but if you get push back just have the discipline to release the hand. My tip look to out play opponents post flop not pre flop in position and then it wont matter what you have for cards.
 
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floating!!!! look for a video on floating this should help about late position
 
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It sounds like more blind and ante stealing is something you might add to your rep. Your TAG style will benefit you, but definatly using that image to your advantage and picking up more pots preflop will help build your stack.
 
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well

Yea I dont believe blind stealing is as profitable as people may think at mid to low stakes. In order to effectively push people out on a consistent basis it would have to be at least a 3 times the blind, and risking alot to gain a little isnt sound strategy. I completely agree with rounders and I have used his strategy in other situations as well. For instance, if I put my villian on a PP I might reraise into him preflop, if the table folds to me and I have a playable hand. The reasoning for this is any ace or king on the flop has a scare factor, and allows me to put pressure on the villian. In most cases I like to represent strength preflop if I am going to enter the pot. It just depends on the table but at most mid stakes tables I am fairly confident post flop, so I like to get chips into the pot as early as possible. Even with sc's like 67s or 78s I may raise preflop, just for the surprise factor. Its hard to put a guy on 78s when he re raised into you preflop and when you hit your monster you'll find you'll get paid off more frequently. It just comes down to how you play:
1: See alot of flops cheaply and outplay ppl postflop
2: Build pots preflop and take them down on the flop
Both styles work in my experiance. I havent even addressed the issue of stack size because its never really been an issue for me. I take care not to play above my bankroll so I always have a deep stack, and the only time I consider stack is when villian raises into me, and even then its his stack size I consider not my own. Hopefully I have been helpful.

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Daniel
 
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What I want to know is whether it is better to play lesser hands when there are a lot of limpers e.g. more money in the pot or when there are just a couple of limpers e.g. smaller range of hands to play against?

It's better to play drawing hands with a lot of limpers. Ideally you'll hit your straight or flush when they have top two pair or something like that.

For example, I'll muck 3/3 most of the time, but with a lot of limpers I'm set mining.

Try playing some 6-max tables. Your hand requirements go down some, and you get to play in position a lot more often. (6-max is my game of choice)

Why not post what you play in what positions and we can suggest some tweaks.

At 6-max, I'll open with 7/8s+ on the button most of the time. Maybe A/Xs or A/9+. Of course, requirements go up if people have entered the pot. Then if the flop doesn't contain a couple scare cards, I make the continuation bet. If people bet back, then I have a decision to make.
 
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If the other players see you as tight, you should occasionally throw in a raise with what you might otherwise consider a marginal hand. Sometimes you'll get lucky on the flop. Sometimes you'll get reraised and will fold. Sometimes you'll fold on fourth or fifth street.

If you fold after a reraise or on fourth or fifth street, you start to look weak. If you get lucky and win with marginal cards, you get to show the junk you played, making you look loose.

Once you've given some weak tells, you can go back to your old self for a while.

Don't necessarily think of this as a loss. Think about it as investment in your table image.

When you get that big hand, you'll be ready.
 
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