Playing a table of loose passives/drunk maniacs

Cafeman

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I wanted to pass this by the great and good of CC.

I do OK at 5nl 6max 4 tabling while playing at a varied table. However, when the night time comes and I am on a table where 76% see the flop, and I soon discover that whenever I raise PF almost everyone calls, and then if I hit say TPTK and bet out, I only get one fold. You get the picture.

Am I right in thinking that the way to play this kind of table is either:-

1) change tables

or

2) play for implied odds, suited connectors, PPs, and fold anything that doesn't connect with the flop and NEVER bluff!

I don't like option 1, but is option 2 OK? I'm going to give it a go tonight either way.
 
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Don't ever leave the loose passive tables, not ever.

I would suggest that you look for high card value and when connected with the flop, bet hard to extract the 'fat value'.

Also look to play a lot of pots in position because you can control the pot size depending on how strong your hand is.

The power of drawing hands (i.e. your option 2) is much greater when you can take pots uncontested (not happening here, ever).
 
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changing tables is possibly the worst thing you can do, people pray for the type of table you describe :)

the part "fold anything that doesn't connect with the flop and NEVER BLUFF!" sounds about right, you should also try overbetting with the nuts and generally being more aggro with your better hands.

i am not certain about playing all sorts of hands though, this may spell trouble here and there. just value bet after value bet and that should be enough :)
 
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OK, so option 1 is a definite no go and option 2 needs refining. I'm working on it.

I found this old post about schooling (which seems to be one word some people use to describe my situation) here: about 4 posts down, quoted by aliengenius.
 
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I used to hate those tables as well. But If you have a sufficient bank roll it should be good fun.
 
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Yeah, there's a home game I take part of which consists mostly of very very loose/aggressives and loose/passives. There is one guy who is absolutely atrocious. He called all-ins several times with absolutely no hand on the flop, with something like Q7. There was this other guy who called a 100bb bet with a gutshot on the river and no overcards. I mean, it was just...

The only reason I got up after doubling was the fact that they were playing very, very deep (don't get me wrong, I love playing deep vs donkeys), and the game was kinda out of my league ($.10-$0.25). At one point they were playing with more than $100 on the table each. Also, it was a FR table and I kinda feel lost with that many people, either nitting up a lot or playing like a maniac. But since everyone else were maniacs, guess where that left me :D

The way to play those games is to wait and make a good hand, then bet the shit out of it. You'll have to be comfortable with going to showdown with second pair sometimes, though.
 
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It depends how many of these players you have at a table of 9 or 10...if you have 2-3 thats fine...if you're talking 7-8 then I generally leave the table...odds are you will not be able to win at a table where 75-80% or more of the players are playing like that because statistically somebody is going to beat you in any given hand more likely than not.....I never play with drunk players unless its in a home game, they are simply impossible to put on a hand and they always seem to pick one up at the worst imaginable time...I'd take a loose aggressive or loose passive sober player any day over a drunk one...honestly loose aggressive players are my favorite ones because I find that most are easy to read (at least the bad ones) because they almost always tend to trap when they have monsters and are always firing when they are weak or on a draw...passive loose players to me are much tougher because its more difficult to figure out what the hell they have.
 
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Also take advantage of them calling so much by raising way more pre(can range from 5x-10x if you get me). Should help thin the field a bit and you get more value out of your good hands
 
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Also take advantage of them calling so much by raising way more pre(can range from 5x-10x if you get me). Should help thin the field a bit and you get more value out of your good hands

I was playing a home game with .10/.25 blinds a week or so ago, the drunk maniac was raising to 2.50 every hand when we were all over 80 dollars deep, and he was calling 3bets up to almost 10. Stacked him in 5 hands when i picked up aa twice in a row and then qq 2 hands later :)
 
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