Playing sets in micro games.

So I am currently wondering wich is the most profitable way of playing a set on a micro table. Lets say your sitting at a table, in position with a set over an agressive player. Is 3betting ever a good option?

I seem to be getting alot of folds, but often enough I get 4bet shoved and it seems profitable to me. What I am not sure is if the shove would happen if I was not showing some agression in position.

Its important to note I am agressive most of times in position.

*N.B.* Alot of time I can put vilain on hands, when I can't, I still 3bet, this is when I am getting more folds... I really don't like flatting a set in micros... I even don't flat quads sometimes.

Thanks for advices

GotaLovePoke said:

So I am currently wondering wich is the most profitable way of playing a set on a micro table. Lets say your sitting at a table, in position with a set over an agressive player. Is 3betting ever a good option?

I seem to be getting alot of folds, but often enough I get 4bet shoved and it seems profitable to me. What I am not sure is if the shove would happen if I was not showing some agression in position.

Its important to note I am agressive most of times in position.

*N.B.* Alot of time I can put vilain on hands, when I can't, I still 3bet, this is when I am getting more folds... I really don't like flatting a set in micros... I even don't flat quads sometimes.

Thanks for advices

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It all depends on the board texture and the villain.

Let's suppose an EP player raises preflop and you call on the button with 66. The flop comes down A62 rainbow. Villain bets out. There is normally no good reason to re-raise here unless you know villain will shove over your re-raise. (at 2nl it is very common for players to stack off with AK here). Standard play is call the flop bet and then bet/raise the turn.

Now let's change the above scenario to QhJs6h. Opponent bets out. You really need to re-raise here. Opponent could have a hand that could outdraw on you to make a straight or flush so here I would re-raise and if you can get the vllain to move their whole stack in all the better. If the turn is an A, K, T, 9 or Heart you need to re-raise any turn bet by your opponent to find out if your set is still good here. If the turn totally misses the draw you could call a turn bet but you might as well raise here for value as you may not get another bet from him if the river does not improve his hand and you really want him to pay big to outdraw on you.

fx20736 said:

It all depends on the board texture and the villain.

Let's suppose an EP player raises preflop and you call on the button with 66. The flop comes down A62 rainbow. Villain bets out. There is normally no good reason to re-raise here unless you know villain will shove over your re-raise. (at 2nl it is very common for players to stack off with AK here). Standard play is call the flop bet and then bet/raise the turn.

Now let's change the above scenario to QhJs6h. Opponent bets out. You really need to re-raise here. Opponent could have a hand that could outdraw on you to make a straight or flush so here I would re-raise and if you can get the vllain to move their whole stack in all the better. If the turn is an A, K, T, 9 or Heart you need to re-raise any turn bet by your opponent to find out if your set is still good here. If the turn totally misses the draw you could call a turn bet but you might as well raise here for value as you may not get another bet from him if the river does not improve his hand and you really want him to pay big to outdraw on you.

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I thought it was clear i meant unknown vilains.

I only want to know the proper flop play when facing agression by a unkwown vilain.


And im really not sure about Check/call bet.

Edit: Of course I will raise a draw heavy board, what ever the vilain. And I'll break his off by a small margin in order to be profitable in the long run. But as its been demonstrated, even if the draw gets completed, I am not folding a set here. Its a mather of getting the chips in.

GotaLovePoke said:

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I thought it was clear i meant unknown vilains.

I only want to know the proper flop play when facing agression by a unkwown vilain.

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There isnt one. Poker is situational.

You've read that before.:icon_sunn



But I'd still try to get stacks in pretty early.

Get it in as early as possible. Micro games don't require alot of thought.

Boards with str and flush draws, be more aggressive. On a dry board go ahead and try to sell a hesitant call. If the other guy was the preflop aggressor, try to sell a probe donk bet. Then if he raises you, call and then check the turn and see what he does. In my experience the other guy usually shoves not wanting you to catch your "draw" or to scare you over your hand. But on wet boards, get it all in if he raises you.

I flat called the flop yesterday and the dude hit a K pair on the turn and shoved. A raise from me on the flop would have scared him away probably.

do what you can to build the pot...in your example you have position on him.....so if he bets you call......or if he bets you raise.....he checks you bet....you want to do your best to build the pot without scaring him away with a stong hand like this.....ah......here is where your skill comes into play about your opponent...about the board.....about the street you are on....IMO the bottom line is acting in such a way that will become most profitable for you in that particular situation.

How's this? Was it ok to be slightly afraid of him raising with QJ? There's no way I would lay this down, but it was still in the back of my head. I figured if he flopped a straight to my flopped set, it might be worth going broke over. Same thing for flopped set over set.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($4.08)
SB ($5.02)
Hero (BB) ($7.25)
UTG ($7.26)
MP ($5.54)
CO ($3.79)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 10 , 10
2 folds, CO bets $0.17, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.36) 10 , K , A (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.30, Hero raises to $0.70, CO calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.76) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.75, Hero raises to $1.80, CO raises to $2.92 (All-In), Hero calls $1.12

River: ($7.60) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $7.60 | Rake: $0.50

Depending on the situation you can raise small or raise big, but never just call a raise unless the board is three suited or high connected. You are drawing in these cases so you have to use odds to draw to your boat/quad. It is harder to get a call if the preflop bets were smallish, but you need to raise any bet to get something into the pot. If you have opp who is weak tight preflop and aggressive post flop I think it is wise to bet big or get it all in. Definitely like to push if two suited or two high connected cards on board. JMO

billdogg said:

How's this? Was it ok to be slightly afraid of him raising with QJ? There's no way I would lay this down, but it was still in the back of my head. I figured if he flopped a straight to my flopped set, it might be worth going broke over. Same thing for flopped set over set.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($4.08)
SB ($5.02)
Hero (BB) ($7.25)
UTG ($7.26)
MP ($5.54)
CO ($3.79)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 10

, 10

2 folds, CO bets $0.17, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.36) 10

, K

, A

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.30, Hero raises to $0.70, CO calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.76) 3

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.75, Hero raises to $1.80, CO raises to $2.92 (All-In), Hero calls $1.12

River: ($7.60) 6

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $7.60 | Rake: $0.50

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Might 3bet pre but flatting can be OK depending on your opponent. I'd certainly raise bigger on the flop. So many draws that he's not folding anything to $1.20.

If the board comes with a lot of projects then you should 3-bet. If it is a dry board you should just call, and then he will probably cbet you on the turn, and thats when you get him and re-raise all in.

At least that´s what i do on micro stakes

I would definatly reraise pre flop since the cut off range is usualy just a bit tighter than the button, and your prety upward in your range.