Playing AQ to a 4 bet pre. (micros)

(for micro stakes)
Assume you have AQ (suited and offsuit if you dont mind giving two answers) your in the BB and there is 1 raiser in LP to 3BB, you 3 bet to 9BB, he 4 bets to 20-30BB ;

Are we calling here?
If we call and hit a Q or A on dry board what is our plan?
Assume the same situation but we are now playing from Position on the raiser. ^ same questions.

Thanks, This hand seems to be causing alot of issues for me.

Unless its a spewtard or a really bad player, I am folding oop to a 4bet.

fold

Does the fold also apply to when we are in position in this situation?
Thanks

lukyl said:

Does the fold also apply to when we are in position in this situation?
Thanks

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Yes. I would, in general, not 3bet AQ in position anyway. Big pots + AQ = -$$$

Fold that shit unless it's a LAGtard capable of 4betting super light, which is rare in micros.

Quickly fold. Looks like AA KK QQ

I'd suggest folding like the rest

Chances are unless the other player is just a loose tard then you are behind. Possibly way behind. Just no reason to risk so much in my opinion with the info you have given... At best you may have a higher kicker, but that's at best IMO...

lukyl said:

(for micro stakes)
Assume you have AQ (suited and offsuit if you dont mind giving two answers) your in the BB and there is 1 raiser in LP to 3BB, you 3 bet to 9BB, he 4 bets to 20-30BB ;

Are we calling here?
If we call and hit a Q or A on dry board what is our plan?
Assume the same situation but we are now playing from Position on the raiser. ^ same questions.

Thanks, This hand seems to be causing alot of issues for me.

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IF you play in position you should call if youre playing out of position its probably best to fold

ribaric said:

IF you play in position you should call if youre playing out of position its probably best to fold

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You're advising he call the original raise in position not call the 4bet, right?

a 4-bet means a lot of strenght but if you're holding one of the blocker (the ace) it's preferable to call in position and fold oop. call and see the flop if the board is : A - low cards you're probably good he has QQ or KK. if the board is : A - High cards proceed cautiously he may hit a set

depending on my opponent and the looseness of the other players i would often only call the open raise (3bet only against a very light opening range) - to a 4bet i would insta fold (if we don't have a good read on villain).
which hands do you think players gonna 4 bet here? - at best we have a slight disadvantage against TT,JJ.
we only hit an A or Q abaut 1 out of 3 times - and obv he is gonna cbet nearly every time - even if we hit that A AK would still dominate us..

AQ is almost always behind in a 4bet. Think about what he's 4betting with: he would 4bet AK or QQ+ (all of which dominate you). It's possible that he might 4bet TT, JJ or AQ (which makes him a slight favourite). He would almost never 4bet you with 99 or AJ (anything worse than AQ), so at the very best, you'd be even against him.

First of all you shouldn't 3-bet with AQo. You'll be way behind in most situations. But...
Everything you need to correctly read the situation is who you're playing against. If someone really tight or who played with you many times 4-bets you oop, then he MUST have better cards. Fold then, but if your stack let's you call and you want to somehow try someone you don't know before, you can call, and must be careful on flop.
When A or Q drop (on a dry, low or medium board) you have to consider every possible hand he could bet and 4-bet oop. His check means your bet for sure. His bet, what must happen, should meet your raise. If flop turns against you, and you'll see King, high cards or flush cards, you shouldn't do anything but check/fold. And that's how you should play in my opinion.

Forgive my ignorance, but what is wrong with three betting AQ out of position to a raiser in LP

Easy to fold

ThanJay said:

Forgive my ignorance, but what is wrong with three betting AQ out of position to a raiser in LP

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In my opinion, AQ is a type of cards you can call a raise. But 3-betting is very often ended with all-in, which isn't our aim. You need to build your pot, not push pre-flop too much, because you're on a dangerous spot with those tricky cards. Of course if you decided to play loose, these are great to 3-bet.
But remember, if you meet AK or any pocket pair, especially AA or QQ you'll be way behind
Early phase - call
Late phase - 3 bet
That's all I can say. I don't like AQ.

Quickly fold.

I always call or re-raise the "good cards" because its my obligation as a poker player I lose often with AA or AQ but i am still calling any.

AAnonimowi said:

In my opinion, AQ is a type of cards you can call a raise. But 3-betting is very often ended with all-in, which isn't our aim. You need to build your pot, not push pre-flop too much, because you're on a dangerous spot with those tricky cards. Of course if you decided to play loose, these are great to 3-bet.
But remember, if you meet AK or any pocket pair, especially AA or QQ you'll be way behind
Early phase - call
Late phase - 3 bet
That's all I can say. I don't like AQ.

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What you're saying doesn't make much sense to me to be honest. If you call with AQ, you have no idea what he has and will be in a very tricky spot OOP post-flop if you flop top pair. He is only likely to 4-bet you with a hand that has you dominated, so I think it is much better to narrow his range with a 3 bet.

Fold that shit unless it's a LAGtard capable of 4betting super light, which is rare in micros.

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When you play at micros got to be tight as hell!

Wen you are in position don`t 3 bet, just call, and wait for opponent reactions!

GL at tables!

In the micros people don't 4bet with many hands. Most of the time they 3bet AK+++. But facing a 4bet with AQ you should fold.

I agree to folding to a 4 bet OOP and even iP it seems, but alot of people saying to not even 3 bet AQ here? Surely that cant be cprrect otherwise we are only 3 betting AK+ which is terribly polarized..

lukyl said:

I agree to folding to a 4 bet OOP and even iP it seems, but alot of people saying to not even 3 bet AQ here? Surely that cant be cprrect otherwise we are only 3 betting AK+ which is terribly polarized..

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This would be true only if we don't have a bluff 3bet range. I don't mind 3betting it more often oop but in position we're just basically turning it into a bluff and I think we can get more value from it by flatting.