Playing AK late position after a raise

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Playing AK late position after a raise

$200NL live cash full ring, $1-$2

Mid position raiser with $210 makes it $15 to go
Read on my opponent is again less than great, he’s new at the table, younger Asian guy 20s, familiarity with couple of the casino regs, he looks steely and confident. (Zap!)

I’m on the button with $615 and AKo. I flat call the $15.
Flop is 3h 7d Js rainbow. He bets $15, I call.
Turn is 6c. He bets $35. I fold.

I think there could be passive-based mistakes pre and on the flop. Maybe, the turn too, although I think giving up there was one of the better things about the hand, given how it was played to there. Other than that previous JJ whether to fold or 4-bet pre-flop thread, this was the other hand that bothered me from Sunday.

An easy one, hard one, how would you play this differently?
 
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I think you played It fine no need to get frisky with AK .
You flat, miss the flop , peel on the flop and give up on the turn .

Without a read on this guy and a perceived image of a reg, you need to assume that he can play and has the goods this time until he proves otherwise.

If he was raising heaps and playing agressivelly then I would probably start value 3beting him in pos , otherwise preety standard hand
 
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I think you played It fine no need to get frisky with AK .
You flat, miss the flop , peel on the flop and give up on the turn .

Without a read on this guy and a perceived image of a reg, you need to assume that he can play and has the goods this time until he proves otherwise.

If he was raising heaps and playing agressivelly then I would probably start value 3beting him in pos , otherwise preety standard hand

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OK cool, thanks guys. Within another 20 mins or so, I'd pegged him as pretty aggressive, but was too early to say at that point.

At a stretch in the moment, I could have 3-bet preflop or raised his flop bet - in both instances to either take the pot right there or know for sure if I'm beat when he calls or raises. We prob both had AK here - lol.
 
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You were very involved in the hand and it was not easy to analyze! In your wine I had seen the flop, when he did not connect anything is obvious that you are fold, for more to be ak
 
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Yeah a fold on the flop is also looking fine here. Small mistakes all round.
 
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It's fine to flat AK in position a decent amount for deception, by no means should you be flatting with all the time. I 3bet here at least 70% of the time and I think anything under 50% is a mistake.
 
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I would played the same like you.
I would think that he had JJ, three of a kind, or maybe QQ or KK and I will go fold like you did. But in some articles that I read says that if someone make you a raise before the flop and you hold AK, than you should make re-raise 3 x (his raise). In your case that would be $45.
But in my opinion there are a lot of money and why if he go all-in after your re-raise, than you should go fold, so it's better like you made, only call him and see the flop.
 
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Thanks guys - I'm definitely happy with flatting AK in position here, but I think lifting my preflop 3bet % in this spot is a good idea generally.

I do 3bet pre with AK but mostly when I have a read that the player is LAG. Although that's also a fine place to flat for deception - situation dependent I guess.

Do you handle AQ more or less the same here and fold AJ?
 
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I def think you shoulda raised preflop. You have position! A good raise preflop and then youre in control of the flop...he likely checks to your C-bet. If hes on AK too then he may call or fold but again...on turn hell likely check again then you can chooe to bet again or check...and see a river. The idea is that calling his bets give you no information...him calling your bets or then raising gives you LOTS of information.
 
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Plus youre building your table immage as one who doeesnt get pushed around.
 
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I also think you can raise him to $40 on the flop and his range will fold a lot of the time. By flatting he will likely put you on a small pocket pair or a hand like ak or kq that is staying around to try to hit another card and he will likely bet the turn as he did in this hand.
 
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with the AK i would like to 3bet just to take the agression away from him so u can control the pot. by calling even with the position your on a hit or fold mod, u under represent your hand if u hit u can get the most of it but without hitting its a fold no need to invest more on it, because u just not have enough information on his hand.
 
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