Originally Posted by Stu_Ungar
You cannot push a SS around, they shove or fold if you can convince someone to fold after they have gone all in then maybe you can push them around if not, I dont understand what you mean by pushing them around.
Here is what I mean by "pushing them around":
When someone is playing SS, I automatically assume all their chips are going to go into the pot. So, I include that when I imply pot odds
. When I act first with a +EV hand, I 3-bet/shove first and leave them to make the decision to call or fold. More often that not, they tend to fold. This does on occasion lead to multiple SSers jumping in, but in my opinion this is just potential for a bigger win with minimal investment.
Granted, this is at 10NL. I can certainly see how this would not work at 200NL, since at that point the investment is too great for the return.