Players keep min betting, soo annoying!

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What should you do about it? I mean obviously if you want to bluff at it or have a hand then you should raise, but I find players constantly do it in a multiway pot on the flop. One example i remember is having KQ suited after a raise preflop, and flop shows an ace. I'm obviously behind , but was getting 21:1 on my money? Appreciate any help.
 
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From my experience, if they min donk bet, they have a piece of the flop, and will not fold if raised. Against these type, toss your big ace if you missed, build a pot if you have it. It is very annoying, but that's what I've found works best.
 
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What should you do about it? I mean obviously if you want to bluff at it or have a hand then you should raise, but I find players constantly do it in a multiway pot on the flop. One example i remember is having KQ suited after a raise preflop, and flop shows an ace. I'm obviously behind , but was getting 21:1 on my money? Appreciate any help.

And that's how villain wants you to feel. You're supposed to be annoyed by their min bets while it puts you to the test and get info of where they stand and where you stand in a cheap price.

if blinds are low and and lot of blinds where u got lot of room for post-flop play and for future hands, min-reraise them. it backfires their annoyance. when they make a min-bet, they're pretty much trying to see where they stand by having u reraise them big, call, or fold. when you min-reraise them, which is only 2 blinds, they don't know where you're at. reverse their annoyance back at them. believe it or not, some people fold to min-reraise because they have complete air and don't want to continue their hand any further while perceiving your min raise as a reraise for value to get paid.

Of course, if I have a read that they'll fold to my strong reraise or if i have a hand and they act differently, texture of the flop, player's tendencies, etc, plays will vary. if villain is a calling station while you have a hand, then reraise big and build a pot as much as possible every street. but generally, if they min raise and become annoying while not having enough information or being complete lost of what i should do, i just min reraise. by doing this, they're annoyed as well because they can't figure you out either but they're priced in as well. by doing this, you can also get enough information from your villain.

However, if you don't have lot of blinds or short-stacked where you don't have lot of room for post-flop and future hands, you should be shoving/folding anyways unless u got a hand to slowplay or good hand to build.
 
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i raise, if called and min bet again on turn i raise again. i shove the river too. to me it seems they are saying pls don't bet.
 
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And that's how villain wants you to feel. You're supposed to be annoyed by their min bets while it puts you to the test and get info of where they stand and where you stand in a cheap price.

if blinds are low and and lot of blinds where u got lot of room for post-flop play and for future hands, min-reraise them. it backfires their annoyance. when they make a min-bet, they're pretty much trying to see where they stand by having u reraise them big, call, or fold. when you min-reraise them, which is only 2 blinds, they don't know where you're at. reverse their annoyance back at them. believe it or not, some people fold to min-reraise because they have complete air and don't want to continue their hand any further while perceiving your min raise as a reraise for value to get paid.

Of course, if I have a read that they'll fold to my strong reraise or if i have a hand and they act differently, texture of the flop, player's tendencies, etc, plays will vary. if villain is a calling station while you have a hand, then reraise big and build a pot as much as possible every street. but generally, if they min raise and become annoying while not having enough information or being complete lost of what i should do, i just min reraise. by doing this, they're annoyed as well because they can't figure you out either but they're priced in as well. by doing this, you can also get enough information from your villain.

However, if you don't have lot of blinds or short-stacked where you don't have lot of room for post-flop and future hands, you should be shoving/folding anyways unless u got a hand to slowplay or good hand to build.

I guess you can also treat it in the same way as a check, if they have a good hand they are not getting value at all, and are giving you the chance to draw. And if they dont have a hand then you'll win. My problem though was this guy was doing it every single flop, he did it with a full house against me, and with air. When it was just the two of us, i could deal with it fine, but in a multiway pot, i really dont see the point in calling when you have no chance of winning, even if the odds are huge.
 
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I wouldnt have a set plan for min raisers simply because from my experience it is done for all sorts of reasons. Here are the scenarios iv seen it done often:

-While drawing donks sometimes do it then bet big when they hit.
-As a blocker hoping you won't raise them.
-Thinking they are being tricky playing a monster.
-With something like bottom pair
-Ive seen people just min bet as standard whether they have AA or j10
 
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If I'm getting 21:1 odds on a call, I'm almost always treating it as a check and not letting it affect the way I would usually play the rest of the hand unless I have a good read on when the minbetter is doing it.

I like Pokerfornia's reraise minbet tip -- I'll probably start using this tactic a bit.

Thinking about from the min-better's perspective:

If the table is extremely tight and I have noticed people folding to minbet with regularity despite monstrous pot odds, I will on occasion throw a minbet out there to see if I can get any folds and take down the pot very cheaply. Against some villains it actually works.
 
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On the flip side of all this, if I notice someone is very aggressive, I might min bet raise a monster because they'll be all, "That's so weak I can get them off this."
 
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I like to raise on that situation and work from there. Why? Because that's the only way to get proper information about the hand your opponent is holding and the kind of hand he's min-raising us.
 
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I guess you can also treat it in the same way as a check

+1

Min bets are checks/min raises are calls...

this frees up mental bandwidth, reduces tilt, and discourages our opponent from using this "tactic".
 
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