planning on turning into a pro next week

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Hello poker players,
I would like to hear some advice on my decision to go
pro. Here is the plan...I get a pention cheque that barely covers my living expenses. That being said my expenses are covered and my bankroll is seperate and for poker only. I have 15,000 dollars bankroll (fifteen thousand). I would like to play live exclusively and log about 8 rs a day, 5 days a week. I was hoping to make about 2 to 3 thousand dollars a month. At the casino I will be going to there is a tourney every day at noon for 50 dollars ( aprox 100 ppl). My plan is to play in this tourney every day and when I bust out play 1/2 no limit holdem untill I reach 8 pm or until I proffit 100 dollars for the day. 100 bucks a day proffit 5 days a week brings me to my 2000 dollar monthly goal. It sounds like a reasonable plan to me. One of my questions to you poker junkies is do you think it would be more proffitable to play in less tourneys, say cut it down to twice a week and log more hours at the 1/2 nl cash table? My other question is given my bankroll should I consider playing 2/5 no limit where losing 200 bucks in one hand is not totally uncommon. It just happened my last session at 2/5 lol I raised to 30 bucks pre flop with AK and flopped 2 pr (flopAKQ rainbow) I bet the flop and got raised all in (he had 200 to start also), So I called and he showed his J/10 straight that he donk called 30 bucks with pre flop from the button. Whatever shiat happens. Is 1/2 nl my game with my bankroll or do I need 2/5 nl to attain my monthly goals. And if 1/2 nl is my game, when should I move up? Thanks for your replies and advice.
 
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I'd say stick with 1/2. You shouldn't play stakes where you're worried about losing a big pot due to it being a significant chunk of your bankroll. It will effect your play and get in you head. Just my advice. I'm a novice, but I think it's probably good advice. Others on here I am sure will give better advice.
 
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OP, I see no evidence whatsover in your post that you are a winning poker player. That's obviously the basic requirement when it comes to becoming a pro.

Where does the $15k in your bankroll come from? Hard earned money, binking a tournament or slowing grinding it from the poker tables? If it's either the first or second, you should really reconsider before you lose it all at the tables, imo.
 
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OP, I see no evidence whatsover in your post that you are a winning poker player. That's obviously the basic requirement when it comes to becoming a pro.

Where does the $15k in your bankroll come from? Hard earned money, binking a tournament or slowing grinding it from the poker tables? If it's either the first or second, you should really reconsider before you lose it all at the tables, imo.
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The money comes from me withdrawing from my retirement savings plan. I know this is a huge risk but I have a dream of playing poker for a living and nothing is going to stop me from taking my shot. Even if I go bust I will probobly be doing the same thing a couple of years later. I have played more hands of poker over the last 5 years than the average player so I know the game I think. To tell the truth I have been up and down but have mostly lost due to playing over my bankroll and trying to turn a thousand dollars into a huge sum in a short period of time. I have been more a recreational poker player. My biggest poker accomplishment so far is winning 7200 dollars for 12th place in the sunday millions on pokerstars. All this said, Im taking my shot at making a living at the table. In all likelyhood I will go bust a few times before I end up on the cover of a magazine for player of the year. I have a good plan I think and if I stay disciplined I think it will all work out for me.
 
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Well, you certainly have the, ask for then ignore any & all good advice part down. Good luck with the rest.
 
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study, study,study, and grind away man...i spent two years in thailand and befriended a couple guys that did what you are thinking . just stick within your br and have a stop loss limit. i also knew another guy that would make 250 a day. that was it if he made it in half an hour he got up and left if it took eight he was pissy to be around the next day lol.
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imo, if you're needing to ask these questions than you should probably stick to $1/$2
 
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imo, if you're needing to ask these questions than you should probably stick to $1/$2

I'd even start with small home games, this is the REST OF YOUR LIFE.
Do not try this if you are not a winning player over a serious amount of hands (i.e: over 250k hands at least) at a decent level. I am assuming in the States that means closer to $10/$20.

Many better and wiser than you or I have tried and failed. Please do not spend your golden years living in a cardboard box.

Take $500 if you have to. Invest the rest. Your dream is reachable, but please just be a little bit sensible about it...
 
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This is either the world's greatest level, or the world's worst life choice.
 
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I real. And loving tyler 69's picture!
 
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i think the general census is that this is a terrible idea, given the mentality with which you're approaching the situation...but all you need is a dollar and a dream, and if ur willing to take the risk then you never know...well yea, you do know for the long term what will most likely happen, but if you genuinely play smart then best of luck to you...
 
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Good luck Biff!

Good luck Biff.

Seriously?

OP is saying he's going to gamble away a significant part of his net worth while his income barely covers his living expenses and all you have to say is "Good luck Biff" ?

Do you also go to alcoholic anonymous meetings and offer the participants a beer or two?

:eek:
 
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As said your conditions for going pro are far from optimal.
  • Your BR isn't money you can lose without hurting your lifestyle
  • You're not bankrolled for NL 200 (100 buy-ins = 20.000$)
  • You don't have too much experience grinding imo
You admit being a recreational player - why do you think you can turn pro and make a living so easily ?
To tell the truth I have been up and down but have mostly lost due to playing over my bankroll and trying to turn a thousand dollars into a huge sum in a short period of time.
You realize that you're planning to do exactly that again ?
I have played more hands of poker over the last 5 years than the average player so I know the game I think.
The average player doesn't play too many hands and he usually sucks - just saying.
I know this is a huge risk but I have a dream of playing poker for a living and nothing is going to stop me from taking my shot.
Oh well :( .

Suggestion:

Invest 10K $ (in something safe) and take 5K to the tables playing 100NL - though 50 buy-ins isn't optimal you wouldn't put all your money at stake.

Check whether the plan to play 5d x 8h a week is sustainable at all over a longer period of time.
 
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Invest 10K $ (in something safe) and take 5K to the tables playing 100NL - though 50 buy-ins isn't optimal you wouldn't put all your money at stake.
Good advice, $5k is plenty for 100nl live though imo.
 
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I have played more hands of poker over the last 5 years than the average player so I know the game I think.

How does that translate in terms of actual numbers?

FWIW, I have a full time job and usually play for an hour or so after work to chill out, sometimes a lot on weekends, but most often not at all. So even though I'm actually good at this game, i'm still a recreational player. And I've played about 300k hands last year alone.

How many have you played?
 
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Even if he is for real, I admire him. Sure if someone wants it so much and clearly this guy really does want it so much, then you have to take risks to get rewarded.

Many upon many of top pros wanted and dreamed of playing for a living and they like OP did these sort of things, if not even worse.

Phil Ivey springs to mind more than anyone, wasn't he at some stage I heard him saying in an interview he moved to las vegas with pretty much nothing, trying to play poker for a living and kept busting and busting till the point he couldn't even afford his rent and had to sleep under a bridge? He then hit that big score of 90k and "never looked back" as they say (I hate that saying by the way"!!!!)

I say if you have the drive and motivation and can afford to lose this money, which you say is your life retirement savings then maybe not but who are we to judge. The point is though, I think with 15k, I'm not sure if live is the way too go in a sense these days. Sure mix and play both live and mix in some online too, you say you have a 12th place in the Sunday million so you have something, unless you got lucky all the way! The amount of hands you get in is going to be so little compared to online. Why not give online a go first? I know it's much tougher competion but I'm sure if you have an edge you will turn a profit regardless.

Good luck either.
 
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