Pesky new betting trend in online poker micro stakes...how to deal with it?

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2 pesky betting trends that gives me headache..

When in the past people would advocate value or bluff betting 1/2 to 2/3 of the pot now a new trend is emerging betting 1/3 or less pot. Sometimes even betting the minimum on every street.

Its such a pesky move. the person bets 1/3 or less on flop, 1/3 or less on turn 1/3 or less or river. Sometimes you don't know whether to call with top pair weak kicker. And if you are on middle pair whether to call down on all 3 streets with a min bet (You're afraid if you raise they would just call and then min bet again) Its such a dilemma .

Of course those pesky betters are doing it with some legit hands like top pair or better and some draw hands.

You can re-raise them and sometimes they re-raise you back (which is a very strong signal) or they call and then bet very little on turn again. Again giving you a headache, are they on the flush draw or a hidden monster? if you reraise them again thinking they are on a draw they might re-raise you back with a monster, if you only call you signal weakness and give them proper odds on a draw.

Another is the min 3-bet. If you raise 6c preflop they min 3 bet u 10c. They are doing it with Aces, Kings and some other speculative hands.

Again you almost have the odds to call and some of these min 3 betters also incorporate the 1/3 betting on all streets pesky method. So you really don't know whether to re-raise them (If they are on Aces, Kings probably bad move) or just call or what.

How do you handle them? :confused:
 
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How is that a "new trend"? Silly tiny bets have been going on ever since I started playing.

It's simple. Just call/fold when your hand is weak and raise for value when it's strong. Take notes of what they do in different situations to build a profile of each player.

I've seen people fire 3 tiny bets at the pot with K high on an ace high dry board. I don't even know if it's a value bet or pathetic bluff. (I don't think they know either) I just call them 3x with a mediocre hand and collect the coins. Even if they have me beat, the pot odds are such in favor of a call that it's not horrible to call.
 
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Simple rule of thumb i've grown up in the poker world with. If you can't raise with the hand your in. Why are you in the hand?
Sounds like your getting involved with too many marginal hands

They are making the move and controlling the hand. Wait til you have a decent hand and value bet them to the hilt.
 
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Aces what about a good drawing hand? Wouldn't it make sense to take cheap cards and build the pot when you have a draw to a nut?
 
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2 pesky betting trends that gives me headache..

When in the past people would advocate value or bluff betting 1/2 to 2/3 of the pot now a new trend is emerging betting 1/3 or less pot. Sometimes even betting the minimum on every street.

Its such a pesky move. the person bets 1/3 or less on flop, 1/3 or less on turn 1/3 or less or river. Sometimes you don't know whether to call with top pair weak kicker. And if you are on middle pair whether to call down on all 3 streets with a min bet (You're afraid if you raise they would just call and then min bet again) Its such a dilemma .

Of course those pesky betters are doing it with some legit hands like top pair or better and some draw hands.

You can re-raise them and sometimes they re-raise you back (which is a very strong signal) or they call and then bet very little on turn again. Again giving you a headache, are they on the flush draw or a hidden monster? if you reraise them again thinking they are on a draw they might re-raise you back with a monster, if you only call you signal weakness and give them proper odds on a draw.

Another is the min 3-bet. If you raise 6c preflop they min 3 bet u 10c. They are doing it with Aces, Kings and some other speculative hands.

Again you almost have the odds to call and some of these min 3 betters also incorporate the 1/3 betting on all streets pesky method. So you really don't know whether to re-raise them (If they are on Aces, Kings probably bad move) or just call or what.

How do you handle them? :confused:
That is not a new trend. That is dumb play from beginners that know no better and saw other fish do it. I was wondering why they copy bad players and they do not copy good players. The answer is simple. They saw poker on TV and they think that every hand must be played because they do not realize that what is on TV are just the interesting spots and not the whole game. They do not see how much their heroes are folding during several days. So they will copy the player at the table that playes according to their perception of poker most of the time the bad one that gives a lot of action. So if you have odds to call than call. If you have a hand than raise. If you have no equity even against a 1/3 potsize bet than fold and do not be a hero trying to bluff them out of the pot. It is as simple as that.
 
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It can be player specific. Against a huge nit in the micros that will fold anytime they don't have the nuts, and have fold to 3bet and fold to c-bet stats that make me drool, I often do this type of tactic. A 1/3 c-bet, if they fold to it 80% of the time, is great because the occasional time that they wake up with a hand it costs me less to get away from it. It also costs me less to go ahead and shoot another barrel at them and see if I can get them to fold anyways on the turn. My two 1/3 pot bets in that situation are very cost effective. Only works for me against certain players, ones that fold too much and don't understand pot odds. Also, I don't use this tactic if there's anyone else left in the hand that's capable of exploiting me for it.
 
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Sometimes you don't know whether to call with top pair weak kicker.

If you sort your pre flop game out then you will never be in this situation.

This should only occur if you are big blind in a limped pot, generally just check/fold TPbad kicker, since its not good enough to raise in multiway pots its just not worth the hassle.
 
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gnarus yes suited connectors and Axs are always great with these multi way pots... but someone will raise quite big by the turn... chasing too much will get you caught out. I find if the tables running how you will make quite a big jump with chip stack. But you can really have bad days when the cards are dry. Overall you might be losing and it'll be a leak, unless you can adapt your play between tables running well for you and tables which seem to be against you.

Slow tables are great for those draws though and especially when you control the pot.
 
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series of minimal bets are usually a good sign of a fish. just wait for a decent hand and collect :)
 
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They're up to no good! Anyone tried just clicking it back? I always feel as though they'd have gotten away with it if it hadn't been for those pesky reclicks.
 
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that dam video made me about as angry as that actual player wouldve. Obviously i like knowing that spewy idiots are out there..im more upset with the time wasted in such a spewy manner. oh well, its entertainment :)
 
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Raise when you can, and fold otherwise. When you do catch, it'll be a spanking for the newbie.
 
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The best thing you can do is to take a note whenever you see something unusual with betting sizes, i wouldnt advise you to call it with wathever hand just to find a patern becuse the good thing about micros is that there is always someone to do that for you and when they do dont be lazy and write it down, was he bluffing with such small raise, was trying to look weak and he had nuts, was he drawing, etc, do that for a while, tighten up a little preflop and fold some hands with no showdown value dont try to outplay them befor you figure out what those small bet means.

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