Personal Tips to Crash the Cash Game.

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So as you all know there are many ways to play cash games and I am sure everyone here has their own way of playing.

I'm going to talk about some quick tips I have learned for cash games.
The tips I am going speak about are purely my own that I have found out within the Cash game world. Some of this Advice can be brought onto tournaments but Is strongly recommended for the Cash world.

So ill make it simple, I will list them and speak about each one Individually.

1. The buy in; x100 BB
When you sit and a Cash game and you are roughly playing for longer than 1 hr plus you must make sure your stack size is going to be up for taking a beating if you get a bad beat and if you are card dead. You dont want to sit down with a small chip stack and find out that you have to go ALL-IN with K9 off just because youve been card dead and you've been bleeding yourself because you have been waiting for the right cards to fly your way.
Also if you do have a bad beat. Have a break and reload. Refer to tip 7 for bad beat.

2. The button;
In cash games the button to me is my little holy grail. I play almost any cards on the button. (at a reasonable price of course)
Sometimes I have even played blind with the button.
Reason it is so important is you can watch peoples actions on the flop also pre flop because you will always be the last action. The amount of tells I have seen just by watching people from the button is quite something. Also if you see someone trying to take the pot when it comes to you even if you dont have cards, RE-RAISE them and see how they act. If on the turn they bet and dont check they usually have a hand. But I have won many pots with this RE-Raise alone. The pay off for me has worked in alot of cases givin the circumstances that I thought was right to play it. (Do not do the RE-RAISE every time it will put a hole in your game. Only do It when you have sufficient information and evidence that you think seems fit).

3. SB, BB. RANGES
Many people will give up their SB,BB quite easily when they dont have the cards they want. Its not about the cards you want, its about the ranges to play.
If you only play AK, AQ, AA, AJ, A10, KQ etc... you will not get far in the Cash world. You have to play ranges. I play many hands if it it cheap enough. And you will be surprised the outcome. Dont be affraid to play. You have put money into the pot already dont give it up too easily. And also DO NOT BE AFFRAID TO LAY DOWN. YOU ARE NEVER COMMITED TO A POT. EVER. Unless your ALL-IN.
Make your own ranges and play them.

4. Aggressive Is Good.
Being A aggressive player is good. PERIOD.
Human nature. Think about human nature. Cash games... got that in your head, okay now think of the table as a business.
People do not want to put their own money into something if its not gonna work.
Being aggressive on a cash table forces people out their comfort zones to really consider playing their hands.
Just a eye opener.
There is a difference to being aggressive and being a loose idiot. Its your job to find your passive aggressive play in a cash game.

5. Tight is right.
If you find a player that is tight you can exploit this massively. You can put him on a certain range of hands quite quickly and hone him down to your advantage. Which in turn will help you make good decisions.

6. Dont play the fish.
You got that fish on the table huh.
You think you can beat this unpredictable idiot huh.
Well hes a unpredictable idiot so hes gonna be unpredictable and most probably get lucky on you. Dont think its a easy double up. Play cautiously around him. You have more chance beating someone that knows the game because you study the play instead of some fish playing every hand and might get lucky against your AK.

7. BAD BEATS.
So you went all in with AA huh and got beat by 2,9 off.
Take a break. Move table. Go home try again tomorrow or reload and play your best game. Think about it. There is still luck in the game too. Your not always gonna win. Play your best game and in the long run it will serve you well. Oh and you did the right thing. Unless you really really make a bad call then learn from it.

Every day is a learning day at the tables. I learn all the time. Study your game. Read forums.

For me to learn now I would like people to give their own cash game tips. That would be very helpful.

Hope you enjoyed reading my post.
Happy Raising :D

Vincent
 

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I disagree. yes fish can have lucky streaks. most of my winnings have come from them.As one article put it "they are the ATMs of the poker world." Say i set mine a good player, or nit. So I hit my set. He bets, I raise because there are draws. He folds. Wow i won a small pot. Say i have AK off UTG I raise maybe 9. one person calls and the BB guy to my right calls... I notice he chases any flush draw and will bet big or call big if he has a draw. Flop comes k,xs,xs, i hit my TPTK he may have a flush draw, I overbet the pot 50, to see if my friend is on a draw. He calls. Turn is a blank and doesn't help his flush. I go all in. (I do this because i have seen him stack 2 people going crazy with his draws.) and he snap calls. River doesn't help him and i have just stacked him off. Most good players would fold in his situation, I wouldn't profit from them very much.
 
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Great information thanks buddy. But I wouldn't play all hands with sb bb.
 
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There are some very good points in your thread, i definitely agree with agro, but your advice for the how to play against a fish i dont agree with, hes a fish buddy, yes he doesnt have concept bout playing poker that is what makes him a fish so i would play any two cards against him, and always outplay him after the flop, if he calls he has it, if he folds he dont, its that easy against them :D people have developed scripts to find the fish on the table and play them and u sound like u are scared to play them :D its where u make most of your money off of, is that golden fish :D
 
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So it looks like everybody is seeing 6 as bad advice. I guess I just play abit safe when it comes to it than gambling up with a fish. But I see everyone's point in exploiting the fish but I guess I've just had a fish get lucky a few too many times!
 
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There are some very good points in your thread, i definitely agree with agro, but your advice for the how to play against a fish i dont agree with, hes a fish buddy, yes he doesnt have concept bout playing poker that is what makes him a fish so i would play any two cards against him, and always outplay him after the flop, if he calls he has it, if he folds he dont, its that easy against them :D people have developed scripts to find the fish on the table and play them and u sound like u are scared to play them :D its where u make most of your money off of, is that golden fish :D


Thank you, love the advice back. I think I've just had too many bad beats in my time against the golden fish to make my game abit dented. I guess that's a aspect I need to start working on Thankyou.
 
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I disagree. yes fish can have lucky streaks. most of my winnings have come from them.As one article put it "they are the ATMs of the poker world." Say i set mine a good player, or nit. So I hit my set. He bets, I raise because there are draws. He folds. Wow i won a small pot. Say i have AK off UTG I raise maybe 9. one person calls and the BB guy to my right calls... I notice he chases any flush draw and will bet big or call big if he has a draw. Flop comes k,xs,xs, i hit my TPTK he may have a flush draw, I overbet the pot 50, to see if my friend is on a draw. He calls. Turn is a blank and doesn't help his flush. I go all in. (I do this because i have seen him stack 2 people going crazy with his draws.) and he snap calls. River doesn't help him and i have just stacked him off. Most good players would fold in his situation, I wouldn't profit from them very much.


Great response regard my post. Many people have commented back about that one and I guess I this is where I need to work on. Valid point and your completely right. I seen a side to this I haven't thought of before. Thanks for the comment
 
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I completely understand your feelings about donk's I've been sucked out on lots too. guy had 50 left I had AQ he had A6os. flop gives us both top pair. he shoves, river card is a 6. I set mine with 77's get my trips on the flop, pot was 10 so i bet 8, he was going for a straight he needs 5 to one pot odds or better to continue. he calls anyway. he got it on the turn and i went to crazy with a set on a dangerous board. Guy to my left calls EVERY single preflop raise i make and tries to bet me off the pot. He did it so much that when i got AQ and got an ace on the flop. I bet big, he goes all in, i call. he has AJ and hits his J on the turn. This stuff is just normal variance, But when you know your ahead 2 to 1 3 to 1 4 to 1 etc. you are making profit in the long run.
 
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Good tips. Some I use it too, but I strongly recommend to play with fish, at least once per month just to see how You deal with them
 
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there's more than one type of fish

Learn what makes them a fish & then work at exploiting these tendancies.

But as far as the complete novice fish.... then yes it can definitely be more difficult to handread vs. them (they don't even know if they have a good hand or not in a given situation/scenario).
 
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Would you rather someone beat your AK with JJ than call a fish with 72os.

Like Mr Orrifice said work them out and exploit.

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Great tips in general, but definitely want to play with the fish. Will they get lucky sometimes? Definitely! Will it hurt? Yes! But in the long run, they are your ticket to nice profits, so keep an eye out for their tells (fish often have betting tells) and go after them. The aggro advice is spot on, but you will have to be careful of fish that don't play anything close to standard. That said, once you have a read/notes on them, it shouldn't be too hard to extract some nice $.
 
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If you only play AK, AQ, AA, AJ, A10, KQ etc... you will not get far in the Cash world. You have to play ranges. I play many hands if it it cheap enough. And you will be surprised the outcome. Dont be affraid to play.

Vincent

It is very valuable to me for advice. Thank you. Still I am trying to fight with yourself.
 
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So as you all know there are many ways to play cash games and I am sure everyone here has their own way of playing.

I'm going to talk about some quick tips I have learned for cash games.
The tips I am going speak about are purely my own that I have found out within the Cash game world. Some of this Advice can be brought onto tournaments but Is strongly recommended for the Cash world.

So ill make it simple, I will list them and speak about each one Individually.

1. The buy in; x100 BB
When you sit and a Cash game and you are roughly playing for longer than 1 hr plus you must make sure your stack size is going to be up for taking a beating if you get a bad beat and if you are card dead. You dont want to sit down with a small chip stack and find out that you have to go ALL-IN with K9 off just because youve been card dead and you've been bleeding yourself because you have been waiting for the right cards to fly your way.
Also if you do have a bad beat. Have a break and reload. Refer to tip 7 for bad beat.

2. The button;
In cash games the button to me is my little holy grail. I play almost any cards on the button. (at a reasonable price of course)
Sometimes I have even played blind with the button.
Reason it is so important is you can watch peoples actions on the flop also pre flop because you will always be the last action. The amount of tells I have seen just by watching people from the button is quite something. Also if you see someone trying to take the pot when it comes to you even if you dont have cards, RE-RAISE them and see how they act. If on the turn they bet and dont check they usually have a hand. But I have won many pots with this RE-Raise alone. The pay off for me has worked in alot of cases givin the circumstances that I thought was right to play it. (Do not do the RE-RAISE every time it will put a hole in your game. Only do It when you have sufficient information and evidence that you think seems fit).

3. SB, BB. RANGES
Many people will give up their SB,BB quite easily when they dont have the cards they want. Its not about the cards you want, its about the ranges to play.
If you only play AK, AQ, AA, AJ, A10, KQ etc... you will not get far in the Cash world. You have to play ranges. I play many hands if it it cheap enough. And you will be surprised the outcome. Dont be affraid to play. You have put money into the pot already dont give it up too easily. And also DO NOT BE AFFRAID TO LAY DOWN. YOU ARE NEVER COMMITED TO A POT. EVER. Unless your ALL-IN.
Make your own ranges and play them.

4. Aggressive Is Good.
Being A aggressive player is good. PERIOD.
Human nature. Think about human nature. Cash games... got that in your head, okay now think of the table as a business.
People do not want to put their own money into something if its not gonna work.
Being aggressive on a cash table forces people out their comfort zones to really consider playing their hands.
Just a eye opener.
There is a difference to being aggressive and being a loose idiot. Its your job to find your passive aggressive play in a cash game.

5. Tight is right.
If you find a player that is tight you can exploit this massively. You can put him on a certain range of hands quite quickly and hone him down to your advantage. Which in turn will help you make good decisions.

6. Dont play the fish.
You got that fish on the table huh.
You think you can beat this unpredictable idiot huh.
Well hes a unpredictable idiot so hes gonna be unpredictable and most probably get lucky on you. Dont think its a easy double up. Play cautiously around him. You have more chance beating someone that knows the game because you study the play instead of some fish playing every hand and might get lucky against your AK.

7. BAD BEATS.
So you went all in with AA huh and got beat by 2,9 off.
Take a break. Move table. Go home try again tomorrow or reload and play your best game. Think about it. There is still luck in the game too. Your not always gonna win. Play your best game and in the long run it will serve you well. Oh and you did the right thing. Unless you really really make a bad call then learn from it.

Every day is a learning day at the tables. I learn all the time. Study your game. Read forums.

For me to learn now I would like people to give their own cash game tips. That would be very helpful.

Hope you enjoyed reading my post.
Happy Raising :D

Vincent


Thanks fot the info, going to be playing cash games.
 
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Thank you for your advice. I myself am a beginner istemlyus improve your game.
 
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Great post. Thank you for sharing your knowledge! :)
 
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you know that when you pay with a good hand may be players who come with bad hands not only bad if you like if you are in the same branch as well be July 2 but the same branch and can hit the flop 227 and the It has a full to **** AK AQ AJ any good hand
 
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6. Dont play the fish.

Vincent[/quote]

LOL. Worst. Advice. Evar!

Hint: the fish provide most of our win rate. Learn to love the fish, or find another game to play.

:eek::eek::eek: about all of what I read went through the drain after reading # 6.
So sorry but increasing winrates means finding the fish and play against them.
That's where your wins come from....
What's about table-selection trying to find a table full of bad players and not playing against them ???? :confused: :stupid::stupido3:
 
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So as you all know there are many ways to play cash games and I am sure everyone here has their own way of playing.



I'm going to talk about some quick tips I have learned for cash games.

The tips I am going speak about are purely my own that I have found out within the Cash game world. Some of this Advice can be brought onto tournaments but Is strongly recommended for the Cash world.



So ill make it simple, I will list them and speak about each one Individually.



1. The buy in; x100 BB

When you sit and a Cash game and you are roughly playing for longer than 1 hr plus you must make sure your stack size is going to be up for taking a beating if you get a bad beat and if you are card dead. You dont want to sit down with a small chip stack and find out that you have to go ALL-IN with K9 off just because youve been card dead and you've been bleeding yourself because you have been waiting for the right cards to fly your way.

Also if you do have a bad beat. Have a break and reload. Refer to tip 7 for bad beat.



2. The button;

In cash games the button to me is my little holy grail. I play almost any cards on the button. (at a reasonable price of course)

Sometimes I have even played blind with the button.

Reason it is so important is you can watch peoples actions on the flop also pre flop because you will always be the last action. The amount of tells I have seen just by watching people from the button is quite something. Also if you see someone trying to take the pot when it comes to you even if you dont have cards, RE-RAISE them and see how they act. If on the turn they bet and dont check they usually have a hand. But I have won many pots with this RE-Raise alone. The pay off for me has worked in alot of cases givin the circumstances that I thought was right to play it. (Do not do the RE-RAISE every time it will put a hole in your game. Only do It when you have sufficient information and evidence that you think seems fit).



3. SB, BB. RANGES

Many people will give up their SB,BB quite easily when they dont have the cards they want. Its not about the cards you want, its about the ranges to play.

If you only play AK, AQ, AA, AJ, A10, KQ etc... you will not get far in the Cash world. You have to play ranges. I play many hands if it it cheap enough. And you will be surprised the outcome. Dont be affraid to play. You have put money into the pot already dont give it up too easily. And also DO NOT BE AFFRAID TO LAY DOWN. YOU ARE NEVER COMMITED TO A POT. EVER. Unless your ALL-IN.

Make your own ranges and play them.



4. Aggressive Is Good.

Being A aggressive player is good. PERIOD.

Human nature. Think about human nature. Cash games... got that in your head, okay now think of the table as a business.

People do not want to put their own money into something if its not gonna work.

Being aggressive on a cash table forces people out their comfort zones to really consider playing their hands.

Just a eye opener.

There is a difference to being aggressive and being a loose idiot. Its your job to find your passive aggressive play in a cash game.



5. Tight is right.

If you find a player that is tight you can exploit this massively. You can put him on a certain range of hands quite quickly and hone him down to your advantage. Which in turn will help you make good decisions.



6. Dont play the fish.

You got that fish on the table huh.

You think you can beat this unpredictable idiot huh.

Well hes a unpredictable idiot so hes gonna be unpredictable and most probably get lucky on you. Dont think its a easy double up. Play cautiously around him. You have more chance beating someone that knows the game because you study the play instead of some fish playing every hand and might get lucky against your AK.



7. BAD BEATS.

So you went all in with AA huh and got beat by 2,9 off.

Take a break. Move table. Go home try again tomorrow or reload and play your best game. Think about it. There is still luck in the game too. Your not always gonna win. Play your best game and in the long run it will serve you well. Oh and you did the right thing. Unless you really really make a bad call then learn from it.



Every day is a learning day at the tables. I learn all the time. Study your game. Read forums.



For me to learn now I would like people to give their own cash game tips. That would be very helpful.



Hope you enjoyed reading my post.

Happy Raising :D



Vincent[maybe he wants to keep all the fishes. The truth its whe en you play with that kind of players. You must have luck at your side because they play with that and many prays from many gods 😀
 
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Overall some great tips and I agree with most of them. #7 stands out because the mental component of poker is so very important. Even IF it isn't a bad beat, it's always good to take a few minutes to collect yourself after losing a big pot or getting felted and go over your play in that hand. Sometimes a bad play can haunt you the rest of the session and you pay for that impact on your future play. One hand at a time and patience is something I remind myself of over and over when I'm playing. We hate to see our stack go down and not up but with patience many times we find ourselves up a bit after a struggle because we remember one hand at a time and to be patient.

I do agree with others that 6 is terrible advice. The fish ARE crucial to the game and you want to be playing them. Yeah they'll call you down with horrible odds for a gutshot and get there sometimes, but usually they give it back later anyways. Fish increase the session swings of course but they put so much money on the table to take with their bad play that you have to accept the increased swingy ups and downs that come with playing against someone who can't fold.

When I started playing live I quickly noticed how decent regs and thinking players are interacting and labeling who is who. When half the table is nodding to one another in agreement when a fish is playing like a fish, watch the action. It's like in Rounders "we;re not playing together but then again we're not playing against each other either." Often times when a table IDs a fish , everyone except the fish knows and the play changes. How many regs avoid another reg if the fish is in the hand? I've made decent plays against the regs by trapping but if the fish is in the hand, most let another reg isolate the fish and have their fun. It's hard work playing thinking poker against thinking players, the fish give us a nice way to build stacks without having to get into metagame thinking every hand. :)
 
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6. Dont play the fish.
You got that fish on the table huh.
You think you can beat this unpredictable idiot huh.
Well hes a unpredictable idiot so hes gonna be unpredictable and most probably get lucky on you. Dont think its a easy double up. Play cautiously around him. You have more chance beating someone that knows the game because you study the play instead of some fish playing every hand and might get lucky against your AK.

Possibly the worst bit of advice I have ever read, not just in terms of poker, but ever.

Yes, they are probably more unpredictable than the regs at your limit, but the vast majority of our profit will come from players making bad decisions, and fish make bad decisions pretty much everytime they get the chance.
 
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7. BAD BEATS.

So you went all in with AA huh and got beat by 2,9 off.

Take a break. Move table. Go home try again tomorrow or reload and play your best game. Think about it. There is still luck in the game too. Your not always gonna win. Play your best game and in the long run it will serve you well. Oh and you did the right thing. Unless you really really make a bad call then learn from it.

You have redeemed yourself, an often overlooked but essential attribute of any successful poker player.
 
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