Originally Posted by Deceitful_Frank
You will have to forgive my butchery of poker language with the idea I am about to attempt to express!
I think the reasoning behind not 3-betting with AJ has nothing to do with its effectiveness making 90%F2S villian fold, he has no idea what cards you hold and 83 would have same effect. Its more about wasting image equity... is that the right expression? If we 3-bet this guy every opportunity with ATCs he is gonna get pissed pretty quick and start 4-bet shoving over light giving us more to worry about. This is unnecessary and sticking with medium SCs achieves the same end pre-flop but gives us small but safe equity post-flop with either easy folds or hands that pretty much play themselves.
My default defences are similar, AK is always included of course but I will defend with 88 to a button steal, 99 a CO steal and TT if average guy is first to open from the HJ.
I have yet to try but am considering expanding to AQ, AJ, AQs and AJs if he really hates to fold to 3-bets. These hands should put me ahead of his range but I need to formulate some kind of real strategy first and get something written down so this will take more thought.
Like I said I no longer cold call to set mine. I will sometimes complete the SB if there are 2-3 limpers and must admit to occasionally calling a 3-bet OOP for this purpose.
I have read that when 3-betting OOP you should do so with a merged and not polarized range. I need to look in to this further. I play 90% 5NL and the occasional 10NL session at peak times. I am trying to concentrate on playing less tables and really thinking through my play. I don't have well developed "poker thinking" but I am tryting to rectify this. C-betting AK vs 2 others even IP when the flop is low and ragged is something I have recently removed from my game!
I lilke the point you made in "3." If he called your 3-bet and there is an ace or a king on the flop then keeping the pot small is obviously the best way to go with your underpair. Its funny how something so glaringly obvious can be overlooked untill you see it there in glorious print!
No apology needed. Its good to share ideas with a player who is in a similar place. I will take extra care to look out for aces and kings on 3-bet flops when I have those strong but vulnerable underpairs. I started as a 21/14, went to a 15/12 stopping most over-hopeful limping to become a 13/12 and now have tightend up my play from the blinds, dropped 90% of set mining, sitting now approx 11.5/10.5.
Its just frustrating when your screen only fits 4 tables comfortably with so long between playable hands. Perhaps I could switch to 6-max as this would fill my playing time much better. Transfering all my strategy accross is a daunting prospect however!
If he hates to fold, by 3betting AQ, AJ then postflop you will take down small pots when he misses and lose big ones when he as AK, QQ, JJ,etc,
The hardest lesson I've had to learn after starting to use the HUD (PT3) is that a villain with a really wide range still gets premium cards and when you try to outplay them you get them to fold the bottom of their range and get lulled into a sense of complacency and think that TP3K is the nuts and get really surprised on the River. Sure 2/3 of the time you drag a small/ medium pot but when you get stacked or have to fold after putting in 2/3 of your stack is it +EV??? Remember that the expectation of folding is zero and in cash games blinds remain static so there is no need to attack them. You would be better served against the 24/17 guys just waiting until you have position and they overplay their hand and taking their stack. Patience. My last session I played 12 tables and on one of them I was dealt 64 hands in my session and never played a single hand.
Despite that it was a profitable little session that would have been better but I tried to check raises with AK when I flopped gutshots and that misfired and I got it all in with KJ after pairing the K against a really loose bad player, guess what? He had AK.
Just think of George Washington or Ho Chi Minh. Instead of charging your enemy, retreat, retreat, retreat until his lines of communication are overextended and his troops are exhausted and then pounce!
Use that metaphor for your play, it works wonders.
As far as multitabling, I have a laptop with a 17" screen so I stack my tables it works way better than tiling them. (I can barely read those little screens with my bifocals).