Omaha: When to bet OOP

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I've been reading this forum for a few months, but this is my first post.

I am really enjoying the game of PL Omaha right now. I play at micro stakes ($2 buy-in or $5 buy-in ring games) and while I'm only a bit above break even I'm starting to feel more comfortable playing Omaha.

My biggest problem is playing hands out of position. I really dislike playing out of position in general, but with Omaha it seems even more difficult.

My question is, disregarding made nut hands, when is it right to show aggression out of position?
 
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My question is, disregarding made nut hands, when is it right to show aggression out of position?

Never.

Okay, almost never.

Never pre-flop.

From the flop on you can bet your big draws. But they need to be BIG draws. Standard straight and flush draws by themselves won't cut it.

Don't play OOP unless you have to. Just auto-fold UTG.
 
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Position is really critical in PLO - avoid bloating pots oop without an extremely strong hand unless you're HU and/or have a very specific read on Villain/reason to bet strongly. This means, for example, folding a single pair on the flop and weak draws, no matter how pretty they are.

If I catch a moderate piece of the flop, say two pair w a weak draw, I'll bet/fold a lot oop.
 
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Although I prefer PLO8 and LO8, I play a quite bit of PLO (hi). But can tell you that a PFR (pre-flop raise) in PLO is rarely a bluff. It might be ill-advised, with a hand worse than your opponent thinks, but they DO have something decent, at worst a high pair. Different from O8 when a PFR can mean either a high OR a low.

So I believe it is a perfectly sound strategy to pot raise preflop in EP or OOP to isolate with an extremely strong hand (AAKQ single or double suited types - (as opposed to 79TJ suited types, which you will want to limp with)). Often enough, even limping will suffice to make someone think twice about a raise. Because most experienced PLO players knows it is a post-flop game, the flop can bring anything to your 4 cards.

Bottom line, it depends on the table to some extent. At a fairly tight table with some players I respect I will limp a good - great hand from anywhere. You can always get out on a 3-bet pot raise or such.
 
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You should be folding anything but premium hands OOP. If you are going to limp that is fine but I would advise against calling raises and or re raising from OOP with non premium hands. If you limp and miss the flop it's easier to throw it away and this is what you need to bedoing all of the time. Do not play draws that will end up being sucker holdings in the end.
 
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