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PoochMasterFlex

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In Texas Hold'em I am a pretty loose player (model gus hansen's and Phil Hellmuth's style) but I am really aggressive. Since in Omaha I am even Looser, should i be more passive preflop? I raise with anypocket pairs, connectors, suited connectors, and high suited gappers and anything on the button.

Thanks,
Btw, is there any casinos that have daily omaha hi tournements?
 
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I`m new to Omaha

Hi.

I find that there are lots of strategy articles on Omaha hi/ lo but very few on hi.

My feeling is that u want to see more flops in Omaha, so I suppose being more passive preflop is the way to go. This, I`m sure, will also depend on the limits you play.

I could, of course, be way off the mark!!!

Do you know any good sites that give you a good idea of starting hands for Omaha hi ???
 
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For PoochMasterFlex...
It all depends on what type of game your buying into and also how you buyin (deep or shortbuy). In PLO position is very important, so raising the button frequently is what you should be doing with a wide range of hands. If you are playing in a very loose full-handed game, you probably should tighten up and play more quality hands preflop (shortbuy). In a tight short-handed PLO (deepbuy), your hand range will widen and your strategy becomes more effective with a passive table waiting for hands. I think short-handed PLO is for you! You can win money playing every hand like I see some maniacs doing. It works well for them and I often find myself paying off their value bets in some spots because of their loose image. Note that this can be a good thing, but it can also be a curse because people aren't folding as frequently to your bets. Sometimes you will be forced to gamble with marginal hands because people will be instead re-raising you more frequently.

For Ronaldadio...
Lyle Berman wrote a section on PLO in SuperSystem 2 which was the first PLO strategy material I've ever read. You should probably check it out, but like NLH, a large part of your success will come from experience rather than learning the fundamentals of the game. Although you should defenetely learn those first because mistakes can be very costly...lol something you probably already know.
 
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The best place in Vegas IMHO for Omaha at lower stakes is The Orleans.

They have a few Omaha tourneys every week, but not every day. They run ring games daily though.
 
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i see myself as quite a good omaha ring game player and i can give you some tips.

1. at low limits, preflop raises have no effect so dont bother, if you play at higher limits however, people will fold junk

2. Generally people see way too many flops in omaha and get in a lot of trouble, a lot of people play cards like a,k,7,3, but the question is what are you aiming to hit with this hand? the nuts straight or aces full of kings is your only hope.

3. starting hands still apply in omaha agaisnt what many people believe. I fold low pocket pairs, 6 and below, because your only real hope is hitting quads, as you will get a lot more set over sets, and full houses over full houses in omaha, especially with low pocket pair. Also hands like 6,7,8,9 double suited. Looks very nice, but be wary, only play after flop on a rainbow board with a large wrap draw (for those who dont know, a wrap draw is when you can hit any of 3 or more cards to make a straight, eg if flop is 10,9,2 and you have j,q,8,7, as you can hit any king,queen, jack, 8, 7 or 6 for a straight) anyway back to suited connectors, generally if you dont hit your straight get out of there, dont chase flushes with these hands, unless its cheap to see a straight flush draw as your flush will very rarely be good.
A general rule is play 4 good connecting cards, high pairs and 3 picture cards, also never play something like 2,3,7,8 and hands with 3 of a kind or 3 to a flush unless connectors or high, but be wary

4. dont get attached to your hands, a good rule is if you dont have nuts on river, be very wary. Also bottom 2 pair on flop is garbage to a re raise, and usually to a single raise so dont get attached. Omaha is a game of draws and redraws, so you only want to be calling bottom 2 pair with a high flush draw or straight draw aswell as your redraw to full house

5. if you flop the nuts, dont be over aggressive as if turn brings 3 to a flush or pairs board, your in trouble and probably need to fold. If you flop nuts with a redraw to flush or f,h then bet hard

6.Lastly pocket aces arent all they are cracked up to be in omaha, if you dont hit your set on flop fold them unless have nut flush draw

I hope this helps, im no pro or anything so a lot of the stuff i just said is probably a load of garbage but it tends to work well for me. Also this is for omaha hi, high-low is a totally different type of game which a suck at.

Lastly the most important in omaha to play well is know when to fold good hands a lot more than in holdem.

Was in a rush writing this so i apolagize in advice for any typing errors and so on.
 
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i have stopped raising pf in omaha hi & hl as well... just doesnt seem to work out for me...

Like all forms of poker I think basically raise when u know u have the best hand and don`t if u don`t!!! (within reason)

So, if say I was playing Omaha h or hl if I had say AhAdKcKs I will raise, then re-evaluate on the flop.
 
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I just received a PM requesting PLO recourses, and thought I would share my response here as well:

aliengenius said:
As you probably noticed from my library, I'm a hold'em specialist, so I am not too familiar with PLO books.

However, Rolf Slotboom is an excellent writer and player who as a book on the subject here. That would probably be the first book I picked up if I were looking.

Also, Caro and Cappelletti have a new book out that is half Hold'em half Omaha here.

Well respected and long time player and author Bob Ciaffone has a book here, as well as a book on no limit/pot limit poker in general (incl. PLO) here.

Of course SSII has fairly long (about 40 pages) PLO chapter.

Also, Championship Omaha by Cloutier and Tom McEvoy covers all forms of the game, including PLO.

Hope that will get you started and GL!

AG
 
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Those last 2 AG listed are excellent. I haven't read Slotboom's book, but I do like his articles and have heard many positive reviews for it. He has some interesting ideas on short stack play.
 
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