Omaha Hi/lo question

Okie dokie,

I need all the Omaha hi/lo pros out there to answer this question for me.

I am sitting on an A 2 for my low possiblities, I won't go through all the drama of the whole hand but here is my finishing 5 card hand.
I have A 2 3 6 7

The winners of this hand tied the low:A 3 4 5 6.

Now I am by no means a poker expert but I have been playing Omaha for awhile now. I surely thought I should have won this hand because of my 2? Yes/No/Maybe So?

Someone let me know!

Taken from Cardschat.com's article on Omaha written by Dorkus Malorkus:

" Low hands are specifically ranked by taking the highest card in the low first and working backwards."

Yes A2 is the nut low hand, and if there are 3 different cards lower than 8 on the board (not including an Ace or 2), you will win a the low (or at least a share). You must have misread the board (i've done this a few times!) - e.g if the board is A 3 6 J K, you've not got the nut low - if you're holding A,2,7,9, you have got low, but it's A 2 3 6 7, which is beaten by someone holding a 2 and a 4. Have you got the hand history to post?

It goes from highest to lowest. His highest qualifier was a 6 as opposed to your 7.

Tina, how long HAVE you been playing Omaha Hi Lo? You seriously don't know how winning hands are calculated after all that time?

robwhufc said:

Tina, how long HAVE you been playing Omaha Hi Lo? You seriously don't know how winning hands are calculated after all that time?

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I have only been playing for less than 6 months Rob, Ya'lls right. My excuse PAIN MEDS :hello:

What's your problem rob? She was just asking a question. Isn't that what this forum is supposed to be about?

I don't know how someone can play for 6 months without realising what hands beat what, that's all. Tina took it in good jest, so no need for you to stick your nose in.

Oh, you were jesting. Sorry, I thought you were criticizing.

lol enough!
tina you count the value of low hands by starting with the highest card and counting down
if your a2 didn't get counterfeited (paired) then you should have the best hand on the lo side
i think you may have read the board wrong here

DESSERTLADY said:

Okie dokie,

I need all the Omaha hi/lo pros out there to answer this question for me.

I am sitting on an A 2 for my low possiblities, I won't go through all the drama of the whole hand but here is my finishing 5 card hand.
I have A 2 3 6 7

The winners of this hand tied the low:A 3 4 5 6.

Now I am by no means a poker expert but I have been playing Omaha for awhile now. I surely thought I should have won this hand because of my 2? Yes/No/Maybe So?

Someone let me know!

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Yea Tina this one you lose, just look at your highest low card you 7 winner whoever that is has a 6 even if he holding 23456 you would lose no matter the ace because of your 7 care to join me for a hi lo game at stars, I'm there everyday 3.40 buy in hope this helps you out a little.
Jamile

Tina, I'm not sure why Rob and Chuck think you misread the board. I think you got it right. Jamile's post above gives the best explination why. In short, it's possible to match the high card, have the low card, and still lose the pot.
So, 7652A loses to 75432 because while both hands qualified for the LO, his 5beat your 6.
Think of it the same way you would a flush except that the 5 cards below 9 is used as a qualifier rather than suit. In both cases, rank is used to determine the winner in the case of multiple qualifying hands. When two hands tie for a flush in stud, the winner is decided in exactly the the same way that the LO is decided in O8B. You match cards from top to bottom and with the first instance of non matching cards, the lower card wins.

nevermind my post, DL...just listen to what dogs said - he's put it perfectly:
when counting the low hand, start with the highest card first and work your way down

Four Dogs said:

Tina, I'm not sure why Rob and Chuck think you misread the board.

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When I replied originally, it didn't occur to me that she didn't actually know the hand rankings - which hand beats which to get the low pot. Not after playing for 6 months. I often have o/8 hands which I think are winners, but see the chips go the other side of the table (usually when i'm betting full house that is actually three of a kind). After reading T1riel's post and re-reading original post, it sunk in what she was asking!

I learned Omaha by "accidentally" getting into a game by mistake a few months ago, so little details like this are the sorts of things I am still learning, too. I had a similar question and found this answer yesterday......

From www.online-poker-explorer.com

In Omaha Hi-Lo, the pot is often split between the best high hand and the best low hand. Just like Omaha high, each player must use exactly two of their hole cards to form their best high hand, but they must also use exactly two hole cards to form their best low hand. They do not have to use the same two cards to form the high and low hand. The low hand has a qualifier of 8 or better. This means that for a player to have a hand that qualifies for the low half of the pot they must have five unpaired cards 8 or below. Aces are played both low and high so an Ace is the lowest card in a low hand. Because each player must use exactly three community cards, there are times when a low hand is not possible. For example, if the board shows K Q T 7 3, then there can’t be a low hand as there are only two cards 8 or below on the board. In this case the high hand wins the entire pot. In the case of a tie for either the high or low hand, the half of the pot is split between the two hands. When two players have the same low hand, this is often called getting quartered, as you will win only a quarter of the pot (half of the low half).

The last thing we will cover is how to determine the best low hand. The easiest way to determine whose low hand is lowest is to take the five cards and read them backwards like a number. The lowest number wins. Here is an example.

A 2 6 7 8 is read 87,621 (Third Lowest)
A 2 3 4 6 is read 64,321 (Lowest)
A 2 3 6 8 is read 86,321 (Second Lowest)



Another explanation from choicepoker.com is:



Qualifying for low hand:

To qualify for a low hand a player must have a combination of 5 cards numbered 8 or lower. The lowest high card wins.

For example an Ace, 2, 3, 4, 5 would be an Ace, 2, 3, 4, 6.

If the highest low cards are equal then the second highest cards in the series are compared and the lowest of these high cards wins.

For example: and A, 2,4,5,7 would beat an A, 2, 4, 6, 7.

If need be, the third, fourth or fifth cards will be considered to determine the lowest hand.

Keep in mind that it is the lowest HIGH card of the five cards that determines the low hand winner.

For example a 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, beats an A, 2, 3, 5, 8.

Hope this helps!

robwhufc said:

When I replied originally, it didn't occur to me that she didn't actually know the hand rankings - which hand beats which to get the low pot. Not after playing for 6 months. I often have o/8 hands which I think are winners, but see the chips go the other side of the table (usually when i'm betting full house that is actually three of a kind). After reading T1riel's post and re-reading original post, it sunk in what she was asking!

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No Rob,
I don't have all the hand rankings memorized, the book I checked out from the library had to go back there after keeping the thing for 3 months,(I didn't study the thing and memorized what I could) I have other things that had to be done and only retained some of the rankings.
And I might have misread the board completely come to think of it but not sure now. Not very good at the screen shot thing even though EVERYONE has told me how to do it(more than once). I need to have my son show me again on here so I can learn that.

Yes I still have ro look at the board and had to make sure I wasn't including 3 cards instead of two in my hand or 4 instead of 3 off the board I think that just takes more experience with the game. I don't have alot of money and donkey fest tournies and play chips aren't the experience I need nor want.

I haven't played this game live yet but I am itching to because I do pretty well when I play Omaha and Omaha h/l online, most of the time.

Seriously, Pain Meds made me post the first post