Omaha - Drawing to straights?

I get into trouble sometimes when drawing to straight when there are flush draws out there. Should you only draw to certain suits that avoid flush possibilities or how do you draw without getting into trouble?

In Omaha when you draw for the straight, and hit it, if its not the nuts, just let it goooo.

psy0nyd3 said:

In Omaha when you draw for the straight, and hit it, if its not the nuts, just let it goooo.

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correction: in omaha, if its not the nuts (period) just let it go..

lol but seriously, when i'm open ended and theres a flush draw out, i still try to get to the next card just to try and catch it...obviously if its too expensive then i ditch it altogether before getting too invested in the hand, but if you can catch the straight and the flush doesnt hit then you're pretty much golden...and if the flush does hit you should b able to get away from the hand if it feels like the person hit it

I rarely chase an open ender... they're awful in Omaha. 8 outs? pffft.. i'd rather have a massive wrap for 20 outs.
Flushes give a lot of equity in Omaha though so don't go too crazy over a straight draw if the flop offers two suited cards.

jbbb said:

I rarely chase an open ender... they're awful in Omaha. 8 outs? pffft.. i'd rather have a massive wrap for 20 outs.
Flushes give a lot of equity in Omaha though so don't go too crazy over a straight draw if the flop offers two suited cards.

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Even worse when as mentioned in the OP there are flush draws too - making 2 of the 8 outs possibly worthless.

how does one ten play in this hand?

full tilt poker Game #30711968653: Table Gizmo (shallow) - $0.01/$0.02 - Pot Limit Omaha H/L - 21:08:12 NZT - 2011/05/26 [05:08:12 ET - 2011/05/26]
Seat 1: Fatal_Check ($0.68)
Seat 2: lucy 1987 ($2.15)
Seat 3: unix0id ($0.86)
Seat 4: defy_second ($1.09)
Seat 5: okeedokalee ($0.71)
Seat 6: motleybun ($0.80)
Seat 7: Chazzdogg ($1.09)
Seat 8: JALP69 ($0.80)
Seat 9: Nemesis60 ($0.19)
Nemesis60 posts the small blind of $0.01
Fatal_Check posts the big blind of $0.02
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to okeedokalee [Kh Ac 8d Kc]
lucy 1987 calls $0.02
unix0id folds
defy_second folds
okeedokalee calls $0.02
Chazzdogg calls $0.02
Nemesis60 calls $0.01
Fatal_Check checks
*** FLOP *** [9h Td Ts]
Nemesis60 checks
Fatal_Check checks
lucy 1987 checks
okeedokalee checks
Chazzdogg checks
*** TURN *** [9h Td Ts] [Th]
Nemesis60 bets $0.02
Fatal_Check folds
lucy 1987 folds
okeedokalee raises to $0.16
Chazzdogg folds
Nemesis60 raises to $0.17, and is all in
okeedokalee calls $0.01
Nemesis60 shows [7s 5h Qh Tc]
okeedokalee shows [Kh Ac 8d Kc]
*** RIVER *** [9h Td Ts Th] [9d]
Nemesis60 shows four of a kind, Tens, for high
okeedokalee shows a full house, Tens full of Kings, for high
Nemesis60 wins the pot ($0.42) with four of a kind, Tens
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.44 | Rake $0.02
Board: [9h Td Ts Th 9d]
Seat 1: Fatal_Check (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 2: lucy 1987 folded on the Turn
Seat 3: unix0id didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: defy_second didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: okeedokalee showed [Kh Ac 8d Kc] and lost with HI: a full house, Tens full of Kings
Seat 6: motleybun is sitting out
Seat 7: Chazzdogg (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 8: JALP69 is sitting out
Seat 9: Nemesis60 (small blind) showed [7s 5h Qh Tc] and won ($0.42) with HI: four of a kind, Tens

okeedokalee said:

how does one ten play in this hand?

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his 5-card poker hand consists of the 3 tens on the board (same as yours) + the QT in his hand (where you use KK). his final hand is TTTTQ, yours is TTTKK, it should be fairly obvious which one is better.

i'd think you do not want to play shallow omaha tables, btw. what is the point?

Just learning.Thought the two cards should work together, new to the game obviously.Thanks for the info.

You can't play with a 71c stack and not raise that hand pre.

Quads always seem to confuse noobs to omaha, yes you need to use 2 of your holecards, but this doesnt mean that you can't have quads when theres 3 of one card on the board though! He could have used his T and any of the other 3 cards to make his 5 card hand.

Omaha tilts me so so much!

id have folded when the third ten hit, hidden quads are a danger in PLO.

psy0nyd3 said:

In Omaha when you draw for the straight, and hit it, if its not the nuts, just let it goooo.

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Rubbish, it depends

fkucdaw0rld said:

correction: in omaha, if its not the nuts (period) just let it go..

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Rubbish, it depends

jbbb said:

I rarely chase an open ender... they're awful in Omaha. 8 outs? pffft.. i'd rather have a massive wrap for 20 outs.
Flushes give a lot of equity in Omaha though so don't go too crazy over a straight draw if the flop offers two suited cards.

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Meh, depends

benevg said:

his 5-card poker hand consists of the 3 tens on the board (same as yours) + the QT in his hand (where you use KK). his final hand is TTTTQ, yours is TTTKK, it should be fairly obvious which one is better.

i'd think you do not want to play shallow omaha tables, btw. what is the point?

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Omaha is not holdem. shallow omaha is not shallow holdem

midgetfactory said:

id have folded when the third ten hit, hidden quads are a danger in PLO.

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Rubbish, it depends

watchtowel said:

I get into trouble sometimes when drawing to straight when there are flush draws out there. Should you only draw to certain suits that avoid flush possibilities or how do you draw without getting into trouble?

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If I flop a str8 draw (gutshot or open) and there are two cards of the same suit, its hard for me to continue in that hand. It also depends if it is a Multi-way pot or heads up. Heads up I will stay in for cheap, but Multi-way I fold all day long. 3 or more players in a hand with a flush draw out there, someone is bound to hit their flush........just my opinion.....

Do not draw to straights if there is a flush draw, or if there is a pair out on the board.

Stop people, it is too broad to say.