zachvac
Legend
Silver Level
Now mostly in the past I will continue to raise preflop with AA/KK and do my best to get as many chips in the pot preflop with these hands. But the last few days I've seen several people play AA/KK postflop pretty effectively. It disguises your hand well and at the lower stakes at least people are willing to stack with top pair hands.
Now I am NOT talking about limping AA/KK but say you raise and are 3-bet. I have 100% 4-bet these hands in the past. But what if you just flat call? It's still a decent pot, and you've convinced AK/AQ-type hands they're probably at least flipping with us. Now I dislike KK a lot because of this, as we cannot continue to play with an A on the board with that action. But especially with AA, if we can narrow villain's range and know we probably don't have to worry about the low sets and 2-pairs, do you think it's profitable to be just calling 3-bets for deception value? The caveat is we do have to be able to lay down the hand when it's clear we're beat. When we get called and the flop comes KQJ with AA I think we can get away from it against a tight player. The only hand he could feasibly have that he'd stack with is AK. But when we see flops like K72 and we know that unless they have KK we're probably ahead, we can get a lot of value from hands like AK/KQ/other random kings. In addition if we see a low flop we'll probably be able to get villain's stack in with JJ/QQ, which would be folding usually if we 4-bet them preflop. Opinions on this?
Now I am NOT talking about limping AA/KK but say you raise and are 3-bet. I have 100% 4-bet these hands in the past. But what if you just flat call? It's still a decent pot, and you've convinced AK/AQ-type hands they're probably at least flipping with us. Now I dislike KK a lot because of this, as we cannot continue to play with an A on the board with that action. But especially with AA, if we can narrow villain's range and know we probably don't have to worry about the low sets and 2-pairs, do you think it's profitable to be just calling 3-bets for deception value? The caveat is we do have to be able to lay down the hand when it's clear we're beat. When we get called and the flop comes KQJ with AA I think we can get away from it against a tight player. The only hand he could feasibly have that he'd stack with is AK. But when we see flops like K72 and we know that unless they have KK we're probably ahead, we can get a lot of value from hands like AK/KQ/other random kings. In addition if we see a low flop we'll probably be able to get villain's stack in with JJ/QQ, which would be folding usually if we 4-bet them preflop. Opinions on this?