Originally Posted by joosebuck
i agree. i dont think people use their position to bluff players enough in situations like this.
his calling hands (KT, TT, KK, QJh, AJh)
hands he folds, J10, QJo, KQ, KJ, AK, QQ, JJ, etc. i think i like a bet here way more than a check.
this is most definetly a bet/fold situation, though.
As usual, we tend to give general answers to general questions for the general public. But since it's FP asking I think we need to dig a little deeper here. Of course there are exeptions to the conventionl wisdom of checking the river, and if you're cabable of 3rd and 4th level thinking then there may be opportunities to scratch out a few extra shekels, but there's no Eldorado here.
Now Joose, the question wasn't with what hands you should call or fold, but rather what hands you should bet with. In order to re-open the betting you need to have a very strong hand. Neither calling nor checking does this. I think your giving the bettor too much fold equity here. Depending on the size of your bet, there are many hands on your list of hands that should fold
, that really should call. This is the time for multi-level thinking. The looser or more agressive you feel your opponent sees you, the broader you must assume his range of calling hands will be, possibly
offsetting the risks of re-opening the betting. In the heat of battle, this may be a little beyond most of our abilities, mine for sure.
In poker, especially Hold'em, it rarely pays to be passive, but this is one of those time where I think it's correct.
Incidently, the way the betting transpired in FP's exaple, I might even be tempted to call a 1/2 pot sized bet with 8A or 8K, in this case a loser to FP's 99.