NL-2 my mind progressive (or 2 important things to know)

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Hello all! Today I want share my thoughts and then get comments and real advices from you after reading this topic.
Earning 150$ bankroll on poker stars I decided to wait with the transition to NL-5. I made 100$ cash-out and for remaining 50$ I continued play cash NL-2.
My game session last 6 hours and I played 2,5k hands. It was the biggest plays what I ever make. I was extremely happy because it raised my cash for 20$ !!!
I wish to pay attention to just how much has changed the psychology of my game. With a $ 20 bankroll and playing eight tables at the same time I was afraid and play tight and that as a result brought me basically a loss, very rarely a profit of 1 or 2 dollars.
But now I began to play very aggressively trying to pressure rivals high-bets, and you know what? They often folded. I am talking about NL-2.
So, I am the biggest opponent of slow play. I did not use the slow play even with obviously the best combination. You know, you could earn more money in the long run, if you will bet all-in on the flop or turn with the nuts than trying to use slow play because the opponent will think that you just want to steal the bank.
I just want to say 2 thing:
1 - DID NOT use slow play
2 - BE more aggressive
 
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I agree completely that you shouldn't slow play monster hands at the micro stakes. Too often players either miss value with their monster hands by being too nervous to bet, or they let themselves get outdrawn by things like gutshots and backdoor flush draws, then they complain about how the game is rigged and how unlucky they are.

When you have a hand at the micro stakes, value bet hard and let the fish pay you off.
 
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micro limits are so fantastic play )
 
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I think there are exceptions where you can slow play at the micros. Flopping things like quads or a nut flush where you can tell the villain is scared and has gone into check/fold mode. Situations like this I usually slow play so you don't instantly lose your opponent. Sometimes they improve or just take a stab.

Obviously depends on the opponent the and if you get some whale or maniac then of course there's no need to slow play, but I do think the philosophy of 'you should always do this' is generally a poor logic, in poker and in life. Not slow playing is good for fundamentals but once you're breakeven and want to start improving your game, you can surely slow play certain situations. It's the same idea with bluffing.
 
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I think there are exceptions where you can slow play at the micros. Flopping things like quads or a nut flush where you can tell the villain is scared and has gone into check/fold mode. Situations like this I usually slow play so you don't instantly lose your opponent. Sometimes they improve or just take a stab.

Obviously depends on the opponent the and if you get some whale or maniac then of course there's no need to slow play, but I do think the philosophy of 'you should always do this' is generally a poor logic, in poker and in life. Not slow playing is good for fundamentals but once you're breakeven and want to start improving your game, you can surely slow play certain situations. It's the same idea with bluffing.

I disagree with the examples you've given. Even with the nut flush, you risk being outdrawn to a boat. What if someone has 2 pairs or a set with no heart and the flop is 3 hearts? You need to bet for them because they'll automatically go into their fishy "pot control" mode where they just check-call all the way down. I've even seen villains with weaker flushes just check-call all the way down. If you have the nut flush, you definitely want to be stacking off against weaker flushes.

And with quads, you're probably not getting paid off regardless, but the times you do get paid off will be the times when your opponent has a pocket pair who doesn't believe that you could have trips or a straight/flush draw that wants to chase. Don't expect micro stakes villains to bluff more than 1 street.

I can see what you're saying about how there are exceptions to every rule, but I disagree with the specific examples you've given.
 
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I disagree with the examples you've given. Even with the nut flush, you risk being outdrawn to a boat. What if someone has 2 pairs or a set with no heart and the flop is 3 hearts? You need to bet for them because they'll automatically go into their fishy "pot control" mode where they just check-call all the way down. I've even seen villains with weaker flushes just check-call all the way down. If you have the nut flush, you definitely want to be stacking off against weaker flushes.

And with quads, you're probably not getting paid off regardless, but the times you do get paid off will be the times when your opponent has a pocket pair who doesn't believe that you could have trips or a straight/flush draw that wants to chase. Don't expect micro stakes villains to bluff more than 1 street.

I can see what you're saying about how there are exceptions to every rule, but I disagree with the specific examples you've given.

Nice point of a view!!! Nuts flush draw on the flop often could not get fifth colour, in the other hand, even with fifth colour, opponent can get full-house.
There were several times I've profit with slow play, more often opponents just folded against my last bet on the river.
I want know why this is happened... and make some hypothesis:

1. I had special authority at the table forcing my opponents believe my bets.
2. Opponents just don't want play against me using bluff.
3. It was just accidental circumstances.
 
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Yes, it's the right decision to limit NL 2
 
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But now I began to play very aggressively trying to pressure rivals high-bets, and you know what? They often folded. I am talking about NL-2.
So, I am the biggest opponent of slow play. I did not use the slow play even with obviously the best combination. You know, you could earn more money in the long run, if you will bet all-in on the flop or turn with the nuts than trying to use slow play because the opponent will think that you just want to steal the bank.
I just want to say 2 thing:
1 - DID NOT use slow play
2 - BE more aggressive

I think this is not correct ... you should think about the table, generally be aggressive better, but do not pay attention at the table, you can not use this strategy ...
 
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Hello all! Today I want share my thoughts and then get comments and real advices from you after reading this topic.
Earning 150$ bankroll on Poker Stars I decided to wait with the transition to NL-5. I made 100$ cash-out and for remaining 50$ I continued play cash NL-2.
My game session last 6 hours and I played 2,5k hands. It was the biggest plays what I ever make. I was extremely happy because it raised my cash for 20$ !!!
I wish to pay attention to just how much has changed the psychology of my game. With a $ 20 bankroll and playing eight tables at the same time I was afraid and play tight and that as a result brought me basically a loss, very rarely a profit of 1 or 2 dollars.
But now I began to play very aggressively trying to pressure rivals high-bets, and you know what? They often folded. I am talking about NL-2.
So, I am the biggest opponent of slow play. I did not use the slow play even with obviously the best combination. You know, you could earn more money in the long run, if you will bet all-in on the flop or turn with the nuts than trying to use slow play because the opponent will think that you just want to steal the bank.
I just want to say 2 thing:
1 - DID NOT use slow play
2 - BE more aggressive
so did you play aggressive when you had some strong draws for example flush and 2 over cards or only when you hit on flop?
 
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