Need help in migrating from holdem to pot limit omaha

I am a profitable cg player at nl 25 holdem full ring, but in omaha full ring I am a fish who lose money. My playing style is tight aggressive-passive and I play the same style in low stakes pot limit omaha. ( btw I have no chance of knowing which hands my oponent have in PLO)

• My question is what is the best playing style in omaha ( general) ?
• How many hands is optimal playing in percentage preflop ( general) ?
• Is it optimal to raise the flop in PLO if you have premium hands preflop ?
• Is position more important in PLO than in holdem?
• Do you have to bluff less ore more in PLO than in holdem on the flop ?
• Do you have to play more aggressive postflop in PLO than in holdem ?
• Limp ore raise with AAXX ?

I just want some general answers, and I know it depends.........

Question about Position in Omaha vs Holdem?

Position isn’t as big of a factor in Omaha as in hold’em (in my opinion!). But if you watch the action, position can be used as a bluffing opportunity. If there doesn’t seem to be much action, a hand like two-pair can usually bet out thinking the hand is good. A late position player may call with the intention of bluffing at a turn card that looks like it hit a draw and try to chase out the opponent if they then check. They may also be trapping, so know your player, and you may even try that move yourself in early position.
Additionally, later position allows you to read the opponents’ hands better. If there are three flush cards on a board and you have just the ace of that suit, a bet and a raise tells you that the raiser probably has the flush and wants to know where the ace is. No, you don’t have the flush and can’t improve to make it, but if you call (hopefully with some kind of two pair/set draw to pair the board so you aren’t totally naked with the “dry ace”) and they put in a smallish bet or check on the river, you might steal the pot by blasting them out with a pot-sized bet, representing the ace high flush that you know they don’t have.

Marginal touched on some good points here
https://www.cardschat.com/forum/learning-poker-57/beginning-plo-some-very-basic-ideas-190541/

pokerparamedic said:

Question about Position in Omaha vs Holdem?

Position isn’t as big of a factor in Omaha as in hold’em (in my opinion!). But if you watch the action, position can be used as a bluffing opportunity. If there doesn’t seem to be much action, a hand like two-pair can usually bet out thinking the hand is good. A late position player may call with the intention of bluffing at a turn card that looks like it hit a draw and try to chase out the opponent if they then check. They may also be trapping, so know your player, and you may even try that move yourself in early position.
Additionally, later position allows you to read the opponents’ hands better. If there are three flush cards on a board and you have just the ace of that suit, a bet and a raise tells you that the raiser probably has the flush and wants to know where the ace is. No, you don’t have the flush and can’t improve to make it, but if you call (hopefully with some kind of two pair/set draw to pair the board so you aren’t totally naked with the “dry ace”) and they put in a smallish bet or check on the river, you might steal the pot by blasting them out with a pot-sized bet, representing the ace high flush that you know they don’t have.

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Position is the most important thing in Omaha and you just posted an essay backing up my point and pretty much disproving the first line of your post.
So yeah raise liberally from the BTN or CO (if BTN folds too much) and defend the button wide too.
Don't play shitty reverse implied odds hands like 5678 as you'll just get in loads of trouble. Download some PLO books and profit.
The thing is if you're a profitable 25NL HE player why would you want to move to being a loosing 5PLO player?

Position is more important in PLO than HE, and it's pretty important in HE.

And always play and usually 3-bet 8765. For one, it's an awesome hand and, two, you will be totally screwed against good players who will put heat on you on low boards if you don't have that in your 3-bet range.

baudib1 said:

Position is more important in PLO than HE, and it's pretty important in HE.

And always play and usually 3-bet 8765. For one, it's an awesome hand and, two, you will be totally screwed against good players who will put heat on you on low boards if you don't have that in your 3-bet range.

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5678 flop comes 789 and stacks go in you're screwed. Or you hold 5689 and the flop comes 679 and your getting freerolled by the guy who's playing 58JQ or whatever. If you don't have the discipline or reading skills to lay it down your going to loose a massive pot when the other player has TJxx or something.
What i'm trying to say its usually good for winning lots of small pots but the big pots are the ones your going to loose.
However I agree with the regs thinking people only 3b AAxx or big broadway run downs, 3bing with 5678 can be very decieving and force them to spew a little when you smash the flop and they miss.

Playing 8765 does not obligate you to get stacks in on a 987 board anymore than playing 87s in hold'em obligates you to stack off on a JT9 board.

8765ds is a premium hand with super postflop playability and probably gets you into fewer crushed spots than other hands you're playing, unless you're super nitty 18/9 or something, which I wouldn't recommend.

PLO is not my strongest game, but I would like to say two things #1 Position is 95% of PLO and #2 two pair ain't sh*t in PLO. Just my opinion.

Here's a comparison of 8765 vs. a supposedly better rundown, KQJT, vs. a tight raising range (10%) and also specifically vs. AAxx

http://www.propokertools.com/simulations/show?g=oh&h1=8765&h2=AA**&s=classic

http://www.propokertools.com/simulations/show?g=oh&h1=KQJT&h2=AA**&s=classic

http://www.propokertools.com/simulations/show?g=oh&h1=8765&h2=10%&s=classic

http://www.propokertools.com/simulations/show?g=oh&h1=KQJT&h2=10%&s=classic

plo sucks stick to holdem

bustme said:

Limp ore raise with AAXX ?

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You should definitely avoid treating your hand as a four card holdem hand, ie pair and pair, or pair and connectors. The 4 cards should all interact with each other (suits and denominations) and AA is not worth much if it doesn't also combine with the other 2 cards