Originally Posted by kmixer
How did I lose you? I said that if I was all in for 17 under the gun I think the person with QQ would have easily called it and rightfully so according to what is being said in this thread. Of course I didnt know that when I saw my JJ someone else had QQ but the other stack sizes were close enough to mine to make me believe that they would have called with any A or K based on the players table at the time. That is information that was not previously provided in this thread as I am trying to get general replies based on what should be done in MOST cases and not just in mine.
You lost me because you were talking as if you would have still had a decision to make, whereas if you'd gone all in preflop you'd just have to see what opponents have, and what is dealt out on the board (if they don't all fold).
I don't agree that any Ace or King is calling you here. Would K2 offsuit call? Would you have called if you had K2 offsuit? If you folded JJ, then the answer is no. And if you are called by an Ace or a King, and are 65/35 favourite with 6/4 odds
, then that is good isn't it?
If it was me playing, i'd have gone all in with JJ, would have been called by QQ, and would have got up, picked up my MP3 player, shook hands with a couple of my opponents, and walked out. WVHillbilly is right though, what happened was a very unlikely outcome, and 2/3rds of the time opponents would all fold.
You have no chance of winning an MTT or placing well if you play this timidly. and unless you've taken a bad beat or been completely card dead, or failed to hit any draws, you shouldn't be so low stacked at the business end of a tourney - if you are in that situation because you play too weak and too tight, you are going fall short of the money repeatedly.