Moving up blues

First post on cardschat so pardon me if this post is 'awkward'

I've been taking up ring games seriously for the past 1 month or so, starting with a bankroll of 100++USD which was built from 7 months worth of freerolls and most probably lucking it out in donkaments.

Over the course of 1 month I have gone through 30k hands in 2NL and have made a steady 7BB/100hands, more than doubling my bankroll, so i decided to move up to 5NL.

10k into 5NL, after getting an initial steady win of about 4BB/100, i'm hit by a 8 BI downswing. Now I know this is not a lot based on other posts, but this really is the first time i'm getting drawn down this much, and at a new higher limit at that.

I guess all I'm asking is someone to take a glance at my stats and see if anything is wrong? I don't believe my VPIP/PFR or positional play is a problem, but my post-flop play I suspect might be too nitty. In 5NL, I 'feel' I keep getting check-raised a lot on the flop and I find myself instinctively folding anything less than two pair.

I'd appreciate any commentary, nasty or otherwise though I believe cardschat people are a tad more hospitable than 2p2ers

EDIT: Sorry about the last stats being so tiny. Also the last few stats are my fold to cbet stats on flop and turn. The flop and turn before are the cbets I make

Welcome to CC rodney.

8BI downswing is pretty standard. Stick with it and try not to let the swong tilt you.

From your stats (and redline) it looks like you could do with being more aggressive in general.
-3bet% is pretty low, you could try 3betting more from the BTN against MP+2 and CO opens from looser players.
-Agg% is low, don't be scared to double barrel every now and again and try throwing in a few check raises or reraises yourself against the right villains.

VPIP and PFR are OK could be a little closer together though.

Probably best to fold mostly to check raises unless you know villain likes to use that move a lot or you have decent enough equity to reraise.

micromachine said:

Welcome to CC rodney.

8BI downswing is pretty standard. Stick with it and try not to let the swong tilt you.

From your stats (and redline) it looks like you could do with being more aggressive in general.
-3bet% is pretty low, you could try 3betting more from the BTN against MP+2 and CO opens from looser players.
-Agg% is low, don't be scared to double barrel every now and again and try throwing in a few check raises or reraises yourself against the right villains.

VPIP and PFR are OK could be a little closer together though.

Probably best to fold mostly to check raises unless you know villain likes to use that move a lot or you have decent enough equity to reraise.

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Thanks, yeah I realize the red line is pretty ugly. Heard it should more nearly level at 5nl unlike 2nl.

I do 3-bet light occasionally with Kx from the BB as it's supposed to be good for this purpose (better than Ax anyway, less likely dominated or something) but I find I get 4-bet quite a bit, not sure but I remember a session where it was a real pain.... Anyone can recommend hands that's good for 3bet lights if I decide to hit my loose right neighbor with a 3bet?

Thanks for the point about 3betting from the button instead, at least I get position unlike from BB.

Yeah the BTN is a great place to 3bet from!

Against villains with a high FoldTo3bet% you can 3bet bluff with a lot of different hands that can flop decent equity...QJs, 78s, A2s-A5s etc.

Don't 3bet bluff against villains with a low FoldTo3bet%, instead add more value hands like AQs, AJs and KQs.

9k hands later.... I made back my 8BIs !!!

I adjusted to being more aggressive, my recent AF is around the region of 3.5 the past 9k hands

Also, 3 betting from the button Works much better lol. Thanks MM

Okay question time,

Against a villain in the BB with a 3bet of 5-6 percent and no 4-bet stats yet and I have QQ which I promptly 3 bet to 9x bb against a loos-ish hijack. when the BB 4-bets to about 24 bb, is it an auto fold? In one hand I called and luckily set mined against AA....

Effective stack was about 150 BB deep from us killing the table a bit here and there.

Poorly played =( , erased a big part of my earnings

Not much stats on villain, other than him 3-betting me on 3 occasions over less than 100 hands. Think I had a faulty thought process when I reached the river, he only has one combo of pocket aces or pocket kings and automaticaly put him on AK (4 comboes) or QQ (I know, QQ is just impossible here, my mind has a massive brain fart).

Should have folded preflop? or just call river as there's no way he's calling a reraise with worse and that he will not put me on AA obviously.

pokerstars Hand #84170212503: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2012/08/02 12:56:00 AWST [2012/08/02 0:56:00 ET]
Table 'Sagittarius II' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: 847362 ($5.62 in chips)
Seat 2: claudy923 ($16.93 in chips)
Seat 4: slieach26 ($11.08 in chips)
Seat 5: RodneyC86 ($9.14 in chips)
Seat 6: socolik ($2.13 in chips)
Seat 7: acegy ($12.38 in chips)
Seat 8: lightstick82 ($8.99 in chips)
acegy: posts small blind $0.02
lightstick82: posts big blind $0.05
kejooo: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RodneyC86 [Ks As]
847362: folds
claudy923: raises $0.10 to $0.15
slieach26: folds
RodneyC86: raises $0.30 to $0.45
socolik: folds
acegy: folds
lightstick82: raises $0.55 to $1
claudy923: folds
RodneyC86: calls $0.55
*** FLOP *** [9d 7d Kc]
lightstick82: checks
RodneyC86: checks
*** TURN *** [9d 7d Kc] [6s]
lightstick82: bets $0.80
RodneyC86: calls $0.80
*** RIVER *** [9d 7d Kc 6s] [Ad]
lightstick82: bets $2
RodneyC86: raises $5.34 to $7.34 and is all-in
lightstick82: calls $5.19 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($0.15) returned to RodneyC86

I woulda played that hand the same. it's not like you had a crappy hand and people put top two all in all the time and more often than not it wins. i may have played preflop a bit more passively but sometimes you just run into a better hand. it sucks but it happens

Nasty past two days. I'm down the same 8 BI I made back x_x

Man, wth, I swear to god, none of my cbets get respect when I want them to and they always do get respected when I don't want them to be respected at the flop so soon What's funny people donk bet a lot onto my missed flops and I had to fold.

23k hands in and I'm losing faith in myself.

-1.37bb/100, EV wise, ~-0.9bb/100 :s:

Urgh, cmon man.

On donk bets, how does one deal with them? I typically give them credit as a player who probably has no idea about cbetting and just puts chip in when they hit something.

Cash is always swingy, 8BI swings are standard and it sounds like you easily have a big enough BR to not worry about it too much.

In the hand above I prefer flatting the river bet, especially if villains stats looked solid and you haven't been 3betting loads. At 5nl 4betting ranges are likely to be very narrow (QQ+, AK).

Donk bets from loose passive fish should probably be respected but I would float quite often with overs just in case. From regs, well, it depends on your image, your history with them, how many other players in the hand etc. but generally I'm respecting less than donks from donks.

micromachine said:

Cash is always swingy, 8BI swings are standard and it sounds like you easily have a big enough BR to not worry about it too much.

In the hand above I prefer flatting the river bet, especially if villains stats looked solid and you haven't been 3betting loads. At 5nl 4betting ranges are likely to be very narrow (QQ+, AK).

Donk bets from loose passive fish should probably be respected but I would float quite often with overs just in case. From regs, well, it depends on your image, your history with them, how many other players in the hand etc. but generally I'm respecting less than donks from donks.

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Yeah, I find my biggest problem is keeping my cool in a colossal pot involving stacks.

I had to stop playing before I tilt more BIs

On the bright side, went out and actually did some shopping for my new rented room (which is basically just me and my computer and a mattress now). Bought a shelf which had its price mislabelled , a 59.99 bucks shelf going for 9.99 LOL! Now that's positive EV

Lol there's 10BI right there!

Good that you quit before tilting, it can be a massive mistake to carry on when tilting, as I have demonstrated to myself repeatedly in the past