The most useful pokerprogram?

thekazh

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Hi Cardchatters!

I have a question regarding pokersoftware that helps you make decisions while at the table, so I´m not talking about the kind that saves every single hand you´ve ever played.

I have actually never used any pokersoftware before, but as I have been playing a lot of omaha lately I could really use an "user-friendly" (simple) program to give me the odds directly.

I also wonder what kind of pokersoftwares you guys use and for what purpose? What are the functions, prize, complicity...

Thankful for any answers as I´m newbie when it comes to this matter
 
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It sounds as though you are looking for an odds calculator, rather than a tracker.

There are not very many options for an Omaha player. The only ones I can call to mind are omaha poker Coach and Omaha Indicator. Of these, Omaha Indicator appears more sophisticated and has better reviews, but I am afraid I have no personal experience of it.

I wouldn`t be very sure that a calculator is of great benefit in Omaha, in any case. The nature of the game is much more volatile than (for example) NLHE. Each street typically throws up a new set of possibilities and, prior to the river, it is often the case that there could be several hands in play none of which is mathematically a great favourite over the others.
 
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Ok thanks for the reply and I guess you´re right when it comes to Omaha.

But when it comes to pokersoftware in general for NLHE, what do they actually do?

I mean is there any software out there that provides you with more direct information then just the potodds, I mean like if there´s any program that registrates betting patterns, tight-loose/passive-aggresive players ?

Like a program that does all the "notes" and gives you information/advice on your current opponent?
 
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Your suggestion is a good one, Justin, but it is sufficient to provide the name of the program. The mods frown on links to commercial sites.
 
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The best poker tool that you could use is your brain.

I am against software, if you go to school and learn 2 + 2 X 5. You should be able to learn the odds of almost any poker hand. Of course you will need some time to learn, and I'm not talking about knowing the exact percentages of every hand. I'm only talking about the simple basics of answering the question " Is it worth it for me to call this bet " ?

You can be just as smart as any odds calculating device. Let's put it this way. If I designed an odds calculator does that mean I know the information that is programmed into this device ? Yes probabally, because I programmed it right ?

So who makes these odds calculators anyway ?

Is it just normal everyday people who do a little research on the topic ?
 
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I could not agree with you more that the best pokertool is the brain, but I´m not asking about a software that gives you just the potodds, I´m asking if there is any heavyweight-super-duper-software that can be applied to multiple tables and give you multiple functions and information such as: potodds, betpatterns, bluff-frequenzy, playerratings and so on.

I really am not a big fan of the whole concept of pokersoftware at all its just that I know that there is a whole sea of players that do use these kind of programs and if even if I wont start using any software myself I would like to know how much info one can get from a pokersoftware, how much of an edge/info can a player get against me by using a program ?

To once more clearify what Im asking about: Is there any software out there than can give you information such as: Bluff-frequenzy, Betting-patterns, Total +/- stats and so on

Really appreciate the feedback and I´m sorry if this post got a little boring and repeating
 
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Be careful with poker software. Every site has a list of acceptable and non-acceptable programs to be used. The only software I use is holdem manager and I don't even open the HUD. I use it to track my own performance and then check if I am in the right ballpark percentage wise with regard to VPIP%, PFR, 3bets, C-bets, etc etc.

If you check out the list of acceptable programs for whatever site you use, find the ones that you think look the best or the ones you're looking for, for example one that says something like pot odds in it, and then google it for reviews.
 
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Tournament Indicator (which was mentioned above) shows Pot Odds, Outs, and (for each opponent) VPIP, PFR%, Aggression Factor, Went to Showdown %, Won Showdown%, and overall chips won/lost.

Holdem Manager shows no Pot Odds or Outs, but has a highly configurable heads-up display which can show any of the other things mentioned and/or a range of additional info, including Cbet%, Steal%, Fold to Steal, Fold to Cbet, Frequency of Betting by Table Position etc.. Holdem Manager also has extensive facilities for reviewing hands after the session is over, which Tournament Indicator does not.

I don`t know of any software which will identify bluffing Frequency. I am not even sure how exactly you would measure that, actually. It is, however, easy enough to get an impression, from either of these programs, as to how often an opponent is betting and raising. From that, one can make an informed judgement as to whether he is likely to be playing solid cards only or taking liberties also.
 
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Be careful with poker software. Every site has a list of acceptable and non-acceptable programs to be used.


Agreed. However, the two programs mentioned above are considered to confer no unfair advantage and are acceptable virtually everywhere.

They do no more than collate and present in a convenient form information which is equally available to any player who uses a notepad and a pocket calculator.
 
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