Most important concepts to think about Pre-Flop?

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What do you think besides weather the hand is playable?
 
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my opinion

You have to keep track of individual hole cards. If ace-10 won fold it the next two times. Fold it again if you just won a hand. You only win one in nine hands.
 
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Skill level and your opponents.

Skill level: You might see a professional open JTs UTG at a 9 handed table. But that's because they are more skilled, and can therefore turn more mediocre hands into profit even when they have bad positional advantage.
Oh, and that's also one: Position. You should aim to play around 4 times as many hands from the button than from EP. In EP you should have a very tight range.
So as a beginner, look up a holdem opening hands chart and stick to that in the beginning.

Your opponents: You should always look at what types of opponents you have at the table. If a nit opens, then you have to tighten your range, and if a very loose agressive player opens, you can loosen up your range a bit. Also important to look at the opponents that are left to act. Especially against good aggressive players in the blinds, you should be more selective about the hands you choose to steal with from the CO or Button.
 
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I think about who my opponents are.
 
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You have to pay attention on the position of all players, including you, you have to link the actions of your opponents with their positions and link those actions with previous hands they played, figure out what they do on flop and etc before you make any decisions, especially if you are putting money on pot
 
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Play in position.
Raising A10 in EP is not smart. But in the SB, after that everybody folded, it is.
 
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You have to keep track of individual hole cards. If ace-10 won fold it the next two times. Fold it again if you just won a hand. You only win one in nine hands.

So if I get AA and win your advice is to fold AA the next 2 times I get AA, AA has just as much random chance as A10 to show up in your hand.

SMH. :confused:
 
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pre-flop

position and range are important are even more important in cash games, I think, than in tournaments. and of course playing for the right stakes and buy-in.
 
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man exist many types of games, in one mtt i just follow the flow of the game selecting my hands during the tournament.... sometimes i shove sometimes i pay sometimes i re-raise the villain all situations in pre flop....
 
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Preflop what i watch is my opponents stats and their position in that hand so i could put them in a range of hands, if some nit player opens from UTG i know he would have a strong hand
 
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Find some preflop charts and study them. Play as much as you can and you will develop your own concepts based on trial and error. Oh and make sure to have fun.
 
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Find some preflop charts and study them. Play as much as you can and you will develop your own concepts based on trial and error. Oh and make sure to have fun.

That's right, you should never copy one's action literally, you always have to adapt it to your gane, the way you play, the way your opponents play, many different things that give texture to the game, the key is to identify those nuances on poker table
 
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I agree with this... You need to follow cards because it is very low chance that same cards come up two times one after other. You also need to know that if you have pair, some of player has a pair too and you should be very careful. When you have pair, there will come up one pair on the flop and that is also very tricky even if you have AA.
 
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From my point of view the most important thing is not to go all in pre flop.

We can have an excellent pre-flop hand like AA KK AK but after the flop QQ can be on the table and we know we have a lot of chances to lose. You have to move cautiously pre-flop
 
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Hello watch the players at your table, look at those who can attack, attack when you are behind the button, and silly as blind as possible. I hope you serve luck on the tables.
 
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You have to keep track of individual hole cards. If ace-10 won fold it the next two times. Fold it again if you just won a hand. You only win one in nine hands.
What the actual f*** are you teaching people? This is 100% fish logic in poker.
 
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This isn't very good poker advice. I would say not to follow this advice at all.
 
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List of things before you start.
1. Table dynamics
2. Position
3. Stack sizes
4. Gameflow
5. Peoples tendencies
6. Reasons not to play the hand you have
7. Tilt or others tilting. Mental toughness
 
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Table position. Which players do you want to play against, who do you want to avoid. who's playing tight, who's gambling?
 
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For me personally, one of my biggest problems was playing too loose, calling non-raised blinds. So the most important concept for me is not playing too many hands even if you're only calling the blinds.
 
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What do you think besides weather the hand is playable?
I normally play live game cash holdem. Game is $1/$3 or $2/$5. In a regular 4 hour session understand that the game is dynamic. It changes and fluctuates as people win and lose. SO you need to be conscious of which players are stable and which are in a state of flux. Who is tilting, who is patient, who is steady, who is losing and who is winning etc etc?

Most of the time you have unplayable crap cards. That is the norm. Fold and use the time to really study an opponent. This is helpful when you play in a regular game (say in casino), against the same core group of 25 players. Get to see what they do when they are winning and losing. If you can sit and make some notes, but don't waste your time at the table doing nothing !
 
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ya, position is important. But, whenever I change tables it takes awhile to learn how the other players play. Sometimes, I get switched lots in an hour. So, reading another player is more difficult for me...
Still workin on my game.... LOL.
 
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Your position is most important, then moves of your opponents and thems game stile, and in case - size of your stack.
 
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-If my hand is strong enough to pay/call
-My stack
-study the agressive players
-my seat position
 
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1) Number of people likely to enter the hand (the looser the table, the tighter you should become but the opposite isn't necessarily true because you should only loosen up in a tight table if their flop play is passive rather than aggressive).

2) The meaning of bet amounts to individuals. Some people have no idea how to bet proportional to hand strength and will be betting more for A 10 than JJ because they feel the ace will hit and conclude this is stronger than pair of jacks. You need to start observing their showdowns and what they are valuing higher than what. If they are truly idiotic preflop, you should ignore their preflop raises entirely and read purely based on their post-flop actions.

3) People's reads on you. The tighter you are playing, the less likely people will call you with mediocre hands preflop (but if you notice that some people are not behaving differently to you than others, play TAG poker and destroy them by never lying and they will pay you off as they won't respect your tightness).
 
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