Mixing up play at the microstakes?

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I've recently noticed there is a common occurence in my play, i'll play and usually make a nice 25% increase in my BR after about half an hour, (i have a LOW BR) then my play will just spiral no one will call my raises, i'll play marginal hands just to get calls and see flops and i usually will lose most of the money i originally made, i understand varying play is crucial but at micro stakes i don't really see the point? Should i just quit a table when people start respecting my raises and folding to me, as my opponents are usually only playing with me with a monster or trapping me with a set on an A high board as they expect me to have the ace. i guess this isn't really a question but more of a rant, should i just leave the tables if its not profitable? i honestly think my BR would be alot healthier if i did.
 
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Table selection is certainly very important, sounds like after a while they are adjusting and so you need to readjust as well and it not then find another table.

Also if your br is very small whereby you have gained profit on a table to increase it 25% then yes I would suggest leaving with the profit, especially once you notice things are no longer going in your favor, and basically find another table.

Do you use any kind of a tracking software, perhaps the fish are getting busted on your table and replaced by regs (yes even the lowest limits have regs or i guess nits probably a better term really that will play only premiums).

Essentially on the note of br I take it your br is probably only a couple of buyins at most for the table if increasing it so quickly by 25%? It would certainly IMO be a wise choice with such a small br then to leave and find another table if you have such a large profit sitting on the table in proportion to your br.
 
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i understand varying play is crucial but at micro stakes i don't really see the point?
Your assumption that it's crucial is flawed because it's too general. It basically only matters against players who are good enough to take advantage of you if you don't, and even then, only in those hands where they can do so. Against players who can't or won't adjust, there is no point. So it comes down to assessing the pros and cons on a table by table basis.
 
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If you feel like your opponents are adjusting to your play and exploiting it then I say leave with whatever you have and find a better table?
 
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Arjonius is absolutely correct
I recommend tight vanilla play at the micros. It might be boring but it will work out. honestly, there is less emphasis on position, stack size, and other non-card elements at the micros.
The idea at the lowest levels is to get premium hands and bet them for value, under the assumption that micro players will call you down and give you spots with a positive expected value.
For example, a typical hand in the micros would go like this
raise 4x with AA
opponent calls with 3s7s
flop As Ts 8h
you bet 5/8 pot and opponent instantly moves all in
like, this is a dream come true at even 25nl but at the lowest level It happens regularly.
that's why I don't really recommend expanding your opening range in late position at the micros, I just don't see the point. Just play big hands and crush people, it really works.
 
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For example, a typical hand in the micros would go like this
raise 4x with AA
opponent calls with 3s7s
flop As Ts 8h
you bet 5/8 pot and opponent instantly moves all in
like, this is a dream come true at even 25nl but at the lowest level It happens regularly.

So true. This happened to me just a few hours ago haha. I had QQ (overpair), 2 diamonds on the flop, both all-in, villain shows A10d, hits Ace on the river :mad: . Then someone else took his stack minutes later...
 
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I recommend tight vanilla play at the micros. It might be boring but it will work out. honestly, there is less emphasis on position, stack size, and other non-card elements at the micros.
TAG is kind of like the cornerstone of your game. It should be solid before you start to build on it. And thankfully, TAG is a winning style at the micros.
 
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it seems that TAG will work for a while,until all the fish dry up and you're stuck on tables with a bunch of nitty regs
 
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it seems that TAG will work for a while,until all the fish dry up and you're stuck on tables with a bunch of nitty regs
It's always annoying when you don't get any action from your monsters, but that doesn't mean you should loosen up especially if you tend to lose with those hands. For a beginning player I suggest playing very tight and increase your range once you get better with your post-flop play. If you feel like you're loosing money and there's no one to pay you off, leave the table.
 
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it seems that TAG will work for a while,until all the fish dry up and you're stuck on tables with a bunch of nitty regs
I've been in that situation, but when I chose to look for better tables, I've always been able to find them, although this has sometimes required changing sites.

Plus if you're +EV against the regs, staying isn't a disaster; it just means you're likely to win less. And if you're -EV against them, you need to learn to play them better sometime.
 
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