re: Poker & mini raising big hands to raise preflop
OK this is a little confusing without an example, but I get your drift. I don't agree with it though. This play is also pretty read-dependent. I will never make an inviting raise like this against a looser, aggressive player.
Basically are you saying that, in a situation where it's glaringly clear that you have AA or KK (say reraising a super-tight player), then the play suggested by the magazine would be to make a smaller raise and trap him with good pot odds
I don't like it because:
1) If my opponent is strong enough to toss QQ in that position, I'm sitting at the wrong table. I don't want my opponents to be that strong; I want them to be inexperienced enough that they will make mistakes like stacking off vs. a super tight player with QQ preflop.
2) If he is in fact that strong, then I don't really mind the small reraise. He's going to have to call, and as you mentioned he will only hit ~1/8 or 1/9 times so it's a decent play. But
against a bunch of limpers, this is a terrible play IMO. All we're doing is giving good odds to anyone else who has any half-decent hand here, and they'll feel especially inclined to call if they're the type to see alot of flops. We obviously don't want that against 67s or a smaller pair; in that case there would be a %24 instead of %12 chance of our opponents hitting a set. Still favourable for us, but we can make it much more favourable by just plain raising more.
Again, if the limpers are TAG and solid enough not to get involved with the good pot odds
and a decent hand that could break my kings, then I'm at the wrong table.
Let's lay out an example hand:
$2/5 NLHE (as in your example)
You sit on the button with KK at a 9-handed table. The action goes:
Limp, limp, limp, 2 folds, raise to $25, you minreraise to $50...
So for the limpers, they're getting 97:45 or ~2.2:1
So not as great pot odds as I thought, but you're definitely giving the original raiser great odds (3.9:1). This play looks even more like AA/KK than had you raised for ~$100.
I don't think it's a terrible play, and I'm sure at the medium/high stakes it has its place, but at the limits I play at I just pot it. Even at the higher stakes, tight aggressive players are of course occasionally making plays at pots, and in this situation we don't necessarily have to have AA/KK %100 of the time in our opponents' eyes.
I mean really, unless the player is super
tight, do you really fold QQ to a $100 standard reraise preflop?
I suppose what it all comes down to is your ability to lay the hand down post-flop (holding KK). That way, you can make his preflop call a long-term bad call by not paying him off, and thus filling up his implied odds to make up for the bad pot odds preflop. But even then, by giving your opponents nearly 4:1, it almost makes up for the hand being a 4.5:1 dog with pot odds alone.
Well I'm gonna stop typing now because I know I'm ranting
Good post, stormswa. Got me thinking.
Hope my rant made sense.