Micros- How to beat the loose aggressive players?

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What generally is the best way to deal with LAG players at the micros? I find these players the hardest to make decisions against as you just dont know what they're going to do next. Some obvious ones i know are like value bet them hard with strong hands. But what about preflop, some examples:

Lag player utg open raises 3x bb hero on BTN with AJs??

Lag player CO open raises 4x bb hero in bb with 88??

Lag player 3bets from bb after hero raises 3.5xbb from CO with AQo

Now our villains have a low fold to 3 bet stat, so theyre likely calling any raises here, so do we want to build a pot with a hand which is more likely to be the strongest hand so far or fold these medium holdings to avoid playing with an aggressive player without a strong hand to back it up? Are there any benefits to flatting anywhere here? And im assuming generally i want to avoid playing OOP as much as possible.
 
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Depends on the individual ,but in position feel free to flat more and let them hang themselves. Be aware of board texture though and draws they may be chasing as their range will be much wider. Just always play in position against them, OOP you're gonna have to be prepared to face 2-3 barrels which isn't easy with marginal holdings.

OOP with hands like 88 as you mentioned, just flat if they have low F3bet% and set mine when you have the odds. When they are making it 4bb from CO they probably have a monster so set mining is good here.
 
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micro stakes is probably the toughest to make money because of all the crazy play people do when they play for cents. not everyone has the money to but best bet is to stay away, and play higher stakes if your playing to win money if just for fun and maybe win a couple bucks micro is it but its not a beast I like to play better players for the most part in the higher stake games
 
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You need quite a history to combat even semi-decent LAG players.
At 2,4,5Nl i would not bother fighting them unless i hit the flop decent IP. Simply because we do not have too much fold equity.
I would 3-bet with the second one only. I would flat the first and the third. But this is general. We need a lot more about a LAG player .
 
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micro stakes is probably the toughest to make money because of all the crazy play people do when they play for cents. not everyone has the money to but best bet is to stay away, and play higher stakes if your playing to win money if just for fun and maybe win a couple bucks micro is it but its not a beast I like to play better players for the most part in the higher stake games
So you are saying it is tough to beat 2 and 5NL because of the bad players but it is easy to beat 50NL because of the good players?
Sorry but this is dumb.
 
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LAGs are one of the easiest to play against, just call them more with strong hands and let them build the pot thinking you are weak. In all 3 of you preflop questions just call and have fun trapping them if you hit. If you don't hit you can still call 1 street on most boards.
 
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LAGs are one of the easiest to play against, just call them more with strong hands and let them build the pot thinking you are weak. In all 3 of you preflop questions just call and have fun trapping them if you hit. If you don't hit you can still call 1 street on most boards.
LAGs and TAGS are the hardest to deal with. Good LAGs are the most profitable players out there.
What you are talking about are the maniacs.
 
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I assumed that you can't meet a good LAG at the micros (except if they decided to have fun). Good TAGs can only profit at lower levels against people that pay them off easily, but they are also very easy to deal.
 
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Play for position against LAG with a decent hand. Let him lead all throughout.

Act as if youre weak until he realizes he is trap at the end. :)
 
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Play for position against LAG with a decent hand. Let him lead all throughout.

Act as if youre weak until he realizes he is trap at the end. :)

It is true and a good strategy how ever if you let them built the pot every time , chances are that when they hit their draw they will make you pay them big , so not sure how good of strategy is it unless you are willing to fold a huge pot when a draw card hits the board.
 
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It is true and a good strategy how ever if you let them built the pot every time , chances are that when they hit their draw they will make you pay them big , so not sure how good of strategy is it unless you are willing to fold a huge pot when a draw card hits the board.

THIS^ and the fact that playing only decent hands makes you predictable.
 
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I assumed that you can't meet a good LAG at the micros (except if they decided to have fun). Good TAGs can only profit at lower levels against people that pay them off easily, but they are also very easy to deal.

You cannot meet very good players at micros indeed. Although there good TAGs at micros that hunt the fish and maniacs and move UP. No reason to fight the ones that do not improve your winrate much in relation with the one that you can have only by going after the very weak. Waiting at a table for a LAG to make a mistake is burning money IMO.
10NL up it is another story. Less fish and more people after them. You have to improve your winrate somehow but not waiting for decent hands to trap someone. You need to balance your range so that you become yourself unpredictable or else nobody will gonna pay you. And balancing your range does not mean playing more hands preflop. You need to balance your postflop actions as well.
 
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In micros these are not LAG's, they are loose/maniac fish. A good LAG knows when to hit the brakes, these guys will crash full speed into a brick wall. Anyway, first thing you need to understand are how stack sizes factor into the process. Once you understand, beating these LAG's is very easy.

What generally is the best way to deal with LAG players at the micros? I find these players the hardest to make decisions against as you just dont know what they're going to do next. Some obvious ones i know are like value bet them hard with strong hands. But what about preflop, some examples:

Lag player utg open raises 3x bb hero on BTN with AJs??

Lag player CO open raises 4x bb hero in bb with 88??

Lag player 3bets from bb after hero raises 3.5xbb from CO with AQo

Now our villains have a low fold to 3 bet stat, so theyre likely calling any raises here, so do we want to build a pot with a hand which is more likely to be the strongest hand so far or fold these medium holdings to avoid playing with an aggressive player without a strong hand to back it up? Are there any benefits to flatting anywhere here? And im assuming generally i want to avoid playing OOP as much as possible.
 
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