micro cash question?

So i built my roll to around 16.00 from zero got lucky with a small tourney.
and im trying to stay away from jumping up stakes blowing my roll as ive tried this the last few months and can do ok for awhile but eventually go broke.

and im not sure what i just did to my paragraph here lol

The paragraphs defintely went a little wonky there lol.

I'm not a huge fan of the BCP software, in itself it somewhat tilts me lol. However they do have micro DON's, not sure if you have looked at these as an option to building your br.

Essentially half the field gets almost double the buyin, play tight is a big part of this but at the same time realize who are the complete nits and exploit them by stealing blinds (especially as they get large). In general if someone open-shoves they probably have a big hand or are a complete fish, or its big blinds and short stack in which case they hope to pick up whats already out there.

I believe the smallest DON they have is 1.5 which gives you 10 buyins on the 16br, although pretty scarce of a good brm they are likely the lowest varience style of game, especially once you adjust to them and could be a safer way to build up a decent enough br to be properly rolled to grind cash tables.

ya ill look into that. didnt even think about those thank you.

np, I will note they are not the funnest thing in the world especially the 10 person games, and I don't recall if they have the 6 man tables or not but I would suggest those over the 10 man. The DON's can take forever sometimes and probably why i enjoy the 6 over the 10. GL on them if you decide to make an attempt through them at a br increase.

Keep us posted if you wish, I always like to see how people are doing in grinding up a micro br as its where i sit as well atm.

well i went ahead and took a chance did one 5.50 DON and won and a .10/25 table and between both i dounbled my roll to 35.00. i know i took a shot dont want to continue at that cause i could lose most my roll. but now i have a little more to work with. hope i can do something here

I am a no deposit guy myself and have a few small bankrolls on the go. I like the .2 .5 cash tables, pretty much same skill as the 2 dollar tables, and if your building a roll on 2 dollar tables, may as well play the 5 dollar tables, but the next step is a big difference, so stick on those stakes for a while. Another way I have built a bankroll is double or nothing/fifty fifty sit n go's. if your not familiar its a sit n go (6 or 10 people usually) where top half of people double the entry and the sit n go stops after half the people are gone. good luck

In my history with these style games, I can say they are definitely high variance tables. Reason being because logic is out the door. I've found that the best way to beat these games is to do two things.

First, always buy in for the max and turn on "auto chip up". The reason is because you HAVE to take advantage of the big pot situations when you are major leader.

Second, loosen up your preflop play. These tables are known for overplaying (top pair calling all the way down even when every draw comes in, chasing draws with negative equity, and calling down with second or worse pair "just because"). So, you have to take advantage of these situations by making them pay when you hit, if they are going to show down, make sure it costs them, and always, I REPEAT ALWAYS, evaluate every street compared to their play.

In these games I have a system. I use a HUD, I sit down and only play premium hands for the first hour, and when I'm in the pot I make it pricey (raising 10BB preflop and pot sized bets after the flop). After that hour, I check my HUD and start taking advantage of the people's weaknesses (if they are overplayer's I keep it pricey, if they are rocks, I small ball them, etc.) and I play A LOT of hands preflop (although I have a 5-10% rule: never risk more than 5% of your stack preflop on suited connectors or gappers and never risk more than 10% set mining with small to mid pairs). Then once I get 250% of the max buy in, I sit out and go to another table. This has netted me a positive growth pretty quickly and effectively. I hope it helps.

Also, don't do what I did and put all of your money on a higher cash table hoping to succeed. I've gone bust 3 times in cash games after building a $100 + bankroll from no deposit, all because I wanted to "jump up" when I'd get on a good run. I hope this helps.

thankyo all for all your tips. I really appricieate it. I took a good hit on my br last night tried a bigger tourney and got unlucky so I probably shouldn't have but its one I wanted to play for awhile so no I have more work to do. ugh

Yeah unlucky will happen, hit a horrible run myself playing a little on carbon last night post league game.

Sat to a cash game table, 4nl and it was kinda sick some of the situations I ended up in. Looking back I obv wasn't on my game to its fullest degree but most situations were just played so odd.
Had an instance where I had 99 in lp, there was a raise i 3-bet for about 3.5x his raise. flop xtk, he leads out half pot i call (at this point I am figuring the guy has maybe AJ, AQ, AK, KQ or something along these lines so TPTK or TPGK, maybe even JJ or QQ. I flat his raise, turn comes 9 so of course i loved to see the 9 there, he checked i raised, he reraised i jammed. Bugger turned of JQo and no paired board on the river. Down went 1bi.

Essentially had two other similar situations where in one case i lost with an AK vs AQ i believe it was, and another where I didn't believe the guy had an A and i had KK, it was played strangly but had an Arag yuck to a big 3-bet pre. That was like half a bi gone on the KK blah.

Had a 30 br on there from my freeroll win on wednesday, and 3bi at 4$ a pop puts a huge dent in that was down to like 15ish, played som DON's and almost up to 18ish but ouch to take that hit on the cash tables sucked lol. In this situation I'll be sticking with the DON's for a while (although DON's on carbon don't seem to agree with me much lol), although I may play the 5.50 buyin cc game this evening . Yup deff not in brm, but with only 18$, so 4.5 bi for cash not much brm I can apply really unless i just stick with the DON's but as mentioned my DON history hasn't been going well on carbon.

GL sn, hope things turn around for ya (as I do for myself). Would love to get to a level to have a proper br again to grind cash but can't seem to get one going anywhere these days.

i built my roll on bovada from 6-40 but ofcourse i had to tak shots lol because considering bovada is not too friendly with the people that want to play the .1/.2 tables haha

If your building from freerolls and your playing a lot of tournaments and trying to advance in cash? ... Just remember it's very different play and you may not be that good. So the worse of player you are the bigger roll you will need to start with 1c 2c.

Have a figure in your head when playing a session to how much you will lose before you quit. Strict BRM is the way to go when starting out and you have to remember to play more when winning and just quit and play another day when losing.

You need to be more rolled to learn more and you'll go bust a lot of the times unless you go in over bankrolled for a limit until you prove your worth at 1c 2c.

Patience is the key when losing or learning... But go for gold when winning!!! NO MERCY!

okay what you're doing, you have to take care of the bankroll, maybe you could play any tournament 1 dollar .. and see how it goes.

Patience is the key at the micros. Its way to easy to get frisky and spew I've found. Look into "Crushing the Microstakes" for a great beginner book.

For sure the DON's will do the trick. If you don't take 75%, back it down and practice.

i'd recommend to play sit and go's when you have such a small bankroll. on 0,01/0,02 the skill level is low but the variance with these pre pushes is very high and so is the risk of getting out of money..

When I first time won in freeroll more than 1$ I get up my bankroll to 120$ in 2 days.
In start I played sit & go with 9 players (buy in $0.50), when I had more than 5$ I started to play heads up (buy in $1 to $10). That was time when I didn't played micro tournaments and I build my bankroll just playing sit & go.
So i suggest do like me, but choice is in you hands..