*** March Cash Game Thread ***

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I'm a few time zones ahead of most of you, so it's already March here...

If you didn't see the stuff regarding the MrMucketts MTT, pls view the Feb cash game thread - including FP's clarification on his offer for a coaching session for the winner if the winner donates his winnings for a worthy cause.
 
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in.

and i will be in the mrmuckets tourney as well, although its still got another 6 days to go.
 
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First area of discussion for the month, button 3-betting.

I'd like some of you to list your typical 3-betting range on the button vs. an aggressive CO raiser.

How does your range change when he has a high Fold to 3-bet? Low?

Also, please post WHY you're 3-betting the hands you're 3-betting.
 
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First area of discussion for the month, button 3-betting.

I'd like some of you to list your typical 3-betting range on the button vs. an aggressive CO raiser.

How does your range change when he has a high Fold to 3-bet? Low?

Also, please post WHY you're 3-betting the hands you're 3-betting.

Nice. I'm going to refrain from answering for the moment, I'm very interested in this and have been thinking alot about it, so I don't want to say anything yet - but I'd like to add to the "how does your range change" if he has a high 4bet...
 
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hello march, try not to suck
 
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March is my birth month. So I plan to break even harder than I have ever broken even before!
 
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How does your range change when he has a high Fold to 3-bet?
Decrease our value range and widen our bluff range.
we can start bluffing him more(eg 3betting complete junk, or some small PPs/SCs for the extra litle equity).
Might flatt AA/KK sometimes asuming he is aggro postflop.

I open my value range alot, to like 77+,AJ+,KQ since he is gonna be flatting OOP.
Might also increase my bluff range aswell if villain plays pretty straight forward fit/fold postflop since if he does that we can just 3bet atc, cbet, profit.
 
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going to win at least 28 dollars this month, book it
 
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Sounds good switch. You have inspired me. That will be my actual March goal. Lol. Break Even? Schmake Schmeven!
 
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i am 4 hours in march already when i post this, i was really waiting for this month, but man, have i started bad already.4 times i got it all in with AA and won only once, only 1 time i got it in with kk and lost it, 2000 hands, profit 3$ :(

really hope things will change because the end of february was pretty bad for me. and happy birthday mr, cAPSLOCK.
 
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good luck to all in march
 
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First area of discussion for the month, button 3-betting.

I'd like some of you to list your typical 3-betting range on the button vs. an aggressive CO raiser.

TT+,AJ+,KQ

How does your range change when he has a high Fold to 3-bet? Low?

High fold to 3B = wider range, something like 77+, AT+, KQ+
Low fold to 3B = JJ+, AK


Also, please post WHY you're 3-betting the hands you're 3-betting.

3B wider when he has a high fold to 3B as we can take it down with ATC essentially. When he comes along for the ride hes repping a good hand QQ+/AK so need to be careful. Then we take him to value town when he has a low fold to 3B as he's 3betting with a wide range of hands that we can extract value from.

Goals for March
-Stay above breakeven and head towards $250BR for $10NL
-Put in at least 15k hands with uni starting up
-Continue being aggressive and working on extracting value
-Stop looking up people with TPTK
-Stop stacking off with TPTK
-Implement and stick to a 4BI daily stoploss
 
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HOW NOT TO PLAY PKT KINGs! :hmmmm:

full tilt poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG+2: $10.60
MP1: $4.34
MP2: $11.83
CO: $15.43
Hero (BTN): $12.77
SB: $20.16
BB: $13.38
UTG: $10.00
UTG+1: $10.66

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with T:spade: T:diamond:
6 folds, Hero raises to $0.35, SB calls $0.30, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.80) Q:club: 4:spade: 7:heart: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.80) 5:club: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.80) 8:diamond: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $0.80
Hero shows T:spade: T:diamond: (a pair of Tens)
SB shows K:diamond: K:club: (a pair of Kings)
SB wins $0.75
(Rake: $0.05)
 
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So far so good

pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (UTG) ($3.83)
UTG+1 ($1.25)
MP1 ($1.67)
MP2 ($4.67)
MP3 ($0.73)
CO ($3.04)
Button ($5)
SB ($4.52)
BB ($4.37)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 10
spade.gif
, 10
diamond.gif

Hero bets $0.08, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.08, MP2 calls $0.08, MP3 calls $0.08, 4 folds

Flop: ($0.35) 8
diamond.gif
, 6
diamond.gif
, 10
club.gif
(4 players)
Hero bets $0.12, MP1 raises to $0.30, MP2 calls $0.30, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.60, MP1 raises to $1.59 (All-In), MP2 calls $1.29, Hero raises to $3.75 (All-In), MP2 calls $2.16

Turn: ($9.44) K
club.gif
(3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($9.44) 7
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(3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $9.44 | Rake: $0.45

Results:
Hero had 10
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, 10
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(three of a kind, tens).
MP1 had Q
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, Q
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(one pair, Queens).
MP2 had A
diamond.gif
, Q
diamond.gif
(high card, Ace).
Outcome: Hero won $8.99
 
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High fold to 3B = wider range, something like 77+, AT+, KQ+
Low fold to 3B = JJ+, AK

i think you're pretty off here. high fold to 3bet means you can 3bet more yes, but leaning towards 3betting with hands that aren't good enough to call with (in other words 3betting light), until they adjust. you can conceivably 3bet stuff like KQ or 88 if they're folding so much that it's super profitable right off the bat, but you just have to realize that you'd be turning those hands into bluffs. and due to the fact that most people will adjust eventually if you keep doing it, it usually makes more sense to put a hand like KQ or 88 in your calling range against an LP raise, since they're generally +EV to play as a call, while 3betting a very polarized range and increasing how much longer you can get away with robbing them

and against someone with a low fold to 3bet is actually where you can widen your value range, so JJ+, AK is a bit on the overly tight side
 
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March goals. Lots of volume, achieve lowest level of ironman at least. That's the plan, tho it never works out that way......
 
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Agree with combuboom on marknz88's 3-betting range being hella horrible.

Lets ship the 5K month in March. Plus, I turn 26, so I should be older and wiser.
 
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March goals. Lots of volume, achieve lowest level of ironman at least. That's the plan, tho it never works out that way......

Hey, that's my goal, too! Good luck!

RF
 
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My only goal is to play 25K+ hands and make some money.
 
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i think id like to have this graph again for march.

also maybe take my first shot EVER at 25NL in mid march :eek:
 

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Agree with combuboom on marknz88's 3-betting range being hella horrible.

I kinda understand the points made by blankoblanco.

So if we get re-raised with our 'light 3bets' we are insta folding since these hands aren't good enough to call with in the first place? And if we are three betting light, then should we be calling some big hands like sindri mentioned, to help polarise (is this considered polarising?) our range?

For the villains with low fold to 3bets, what range are we talking about as a 'value range' 88+,AJ+ kinda stuff?
 
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+$3K in Feb. for best month ever (ran hot, only 20K hands).

Goal for March is to play 25K hands so I don't have to give you guys $25. :)
 
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I kinda understand the points made by blankoblanco.

So if we get re-raised with our 'light 3bets' we are insta folding since these hands aren't good enough to call with in the first place? And if we are three betting light, then should we be calling some big hands like sindri mentioned, to help polarise (is this considered polarising?) our range?

For the villains with low fold to 3bets, what range are we talking about as a 'value range' 88+,AJ+ kinda stuff?
If our light 3bets get 4bet we obvs fold, but there could possibly be spots when villain is starting to light 4bet u in which case 5beting/shove bluffing is super sexy, but villains that realize where 3betting them light, adjust by light 4betting us are not gonna be very common, and in any case when we realize he realize where light 3betting him and adjusts by 4betting a wider range we just counter adjust by stoping the light 3bets and widen our value 3bet range to range that plays well against his.
lol i just read what i wrote here and it sounds super dumb :S.

Flatting big hands is fine sometimes, epsecialy,if villain has high fold to 3bet, where IP, and he is aggro/spewy postflop.

Our value range should obvs be difrent depending on each villains tendencys but yeah that range looks fine to me.
Basicly just 3bet every thing your comfortable stacking prf to a 4bet or think is ahead of villains flatting range.

Its super late and i have no clue if anything i said maked any sense...
 
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Marknz88 plays what 10nl??? No one 3bets light much less 4bets light.
 
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