Low-Stakes Thread

[Ducky7]

Ok so the Microcrushers thread is one of the most popular threads on CC, and it has come to my attention that there is nothing really above that

So the Midstakes (low stakes really 50nl +) thread is being created for a lot of similar reasons to the Micro one,
-hands
-Concepts
-Help with PT/HEM etc etc

This thread should allow some higher level discussions and also give the people in the microstakes thread who are moving to 25 and looking to progress a good idea of what the higher limits are like and some of the thought processes that need to be applied

So ye get in and get discussing

 

[xdeucesx]

in for mid low stakes thread

edit: posted b4 u tyler, mad?

 

[Ducky7]

Sorry (Low stakes) Mod change please

 

[xdeucesx]

arrannit browsing, he loves it already

 

[xdeucesx]

v a reg

We have some history, him being very aggro and willing to play back tons. Also, steal % 53, running 34/31 in CO thus far (2k hands)


Revolution Gaming Network - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 313.64 BB (VPIP: 33.64, PFR: 29.45, 3Bet Preflop: 14.22, Hands: 566)
BB: 34.78 BB (VPIP: 14.32, PFR: 13.06, 3Bet Preflop: 4.82, Hands: 809)
UTG: 112.22 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP: 99.5 BB (VPIP: 24.61, PFR: 18.21, 3Bet Preflop: 6.96, Hands: 2,298)
CO: 221.9 BB (VPIP: 28.66, PFR: 22.94, 3Bet Preflop: 7.99, Hands: 1,877)
Hero (BTN): 147.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J:club: A:spade:

fold, MP raises to 2.68 BB, fold, Hero calls 2.68 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (6.86 BB, 2 players) 4:club: 5:diamond: J:spade:
MP checks, Hero bets 4.58 BB, MP raises to 13.16 BB, Hero calls 8.58 BB

Turn: (33.18 BB, 2 players) T:spade:
MP bets 19 BB, Hero calls 19 BB

River: (71.18 BB, 2 players) 5:spade:
MP bets 64.66 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 64.66 BB


edit: He's under 100 bb stack bc of Lock's topping up function glitches at times


Revolution Gaming Network - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 102 BB (VPIP: 19.59, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 5.77, Hands: 153)
Hero (BTN): 123 BB
SB: 90.38 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7:diamond: 6:club:

Hero raises to 2 BB, SB calls 1.5 BB, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 3 players) 9:diamond: 5:heart: 6:diamond:
SB bets 6 BB, fold, Hero calls 6 BB

Turn: (18 BB, 2 players) 8:club:
SB bets 18 BB, Hero calls 18 BB

River: (54 BB, 2 players) 8:spade:
SB checks, Hero bets 20 BB, SB calls 20 BB

Help with sizing on river plz

 

[Ducky7]

You running the stats you gave obvs? he doesnt look overly agro tbh

His line is lol and feels like value i fold river for sure, dont think he plays many bluffs like this

 

[TylerN]

in for mid low stakes thread

edit: posted b4 u tyler, mad?

nopeeee

Revolution Gaming Network - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $47.75 (VPIP: 17.56, PFR: 10.91, 3Bet Preflop: 4.04, Hands: 555)
MP: $62.01 (VPIP: 25.97, PFR: 15.80, 3Bet Preflop: 4.43, Hands: 478)
Hero (CO): $54.67
BTN: $49.75 (VPIP: 23.06, PFR: 16.71, 3Bet Preflop: 4.38, Hands: 448)
SB: $47.00 (VPIP: 17.25, PFR: 12.13, 3Bet Preflop: 5.52, Hands: 380)
BB: $62.77 (VPIP: 40.44, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 3.39, Hands: 144)

SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has K:heart: K:diamond:

fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.50, fold, fold, BB calls $1.00

Flop: ($3.25, 2 players) K:club: 8:heart: 9:diamond: BB checks, Hero bets $2.50, BB calls $2.50

Turn%s: ($8.25, 2 players) T:diamond: BB checks, Hero bets $6.00, BB raises to $19.50 Hero?

BB's Total AF=1.4 and I have never seen him c/r before

we need 29% to call turn and have 22% vs a range of all straights (QJ,J7,76) so just call turn/river?

 

[xdeucesx]

You running the stats you gave obvs? he doesnt look overly agro tbh

His line is lol and feels like value i fold river for sure, dont think he plays many bluffs like this

I just struggled to find any value hands besides 44 and sometimes quad 5's. Maybe some overpairs? Idk, it felt like a very aggro played 67, weak J or even 23

 

[Ducky7]

Ye i think its hard to have value hands but i struggle to pick out many bluff combo's feel like 67s would cbet such a dry board as it has a lot of FE with yu missing a ton

 

[Ducky7]

GII OTT Tyler its lol but we have top set, he can have worse hes retarded

 

[TylerN]

no sizing on river because i check wat are you trying to get value from?

 

[Ducky7]

Infact didnt see ESS's so we can call turn but i struggle to fold vs this lemon pie OTR after investing so much when we still have top set vs a fish, he could have 2ps and worse sets aswell as straights imo

 

[xdeucesx]

nopeeee

Revolution Gaming Network - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $47.75 (VPIP: 17.56, PFR: 10.91, 3Bet Preflop: 4.04, Hands: 555)
MP: $62.01 (VPIP: 25.97, PFR: 15.80, 3Bet Preflop: 4.43, Hands: 478)
Hero (CO): $54.67
BTN: $49.75 (VPIP: 23.06, PFR: 16.71, 3Bet Preflop: 4.38, Hands: 448)
SB: $47.00 (VPIP: 17.25, PFR: 12.13, 3Bet Preflop: 5.52, Hands: 380)
BB: $62.77 (VPIP: 40.44, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 3.39, Hands: 144)

SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has K<font color='red'>♥</font> K<font color='red'>♦</font>

fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.50, fold, fold, BB calls $1.00

Flop: ($3.25, 2 players) K<font color='black'>♣</font> 8<font color='red'>♥</font> 9<font color='red'>♦</font> BB checks, Hero bets $2.50, BB calls $2.50

Turn%s: ($8.25, 2 players) T<font color='red'>♦</font> BB checks, Hero bets $6.00, BB raises to $19.50 Hero?

BB's Total AF=1.4 and I have never seen him c/r before

we need 29% to call turn and have 22% vs a range of all straights (QJ,J7,76) so just call turn/river?

Giving same thoughts I did previously on skype


I think he has more 89, 108, 109 combos + obv 88,99,1010 then he does straight. I kind of like shipping it in bc I don't think he's ever folding 2p or sets...but if he's that passive, I like the call turn/evaluate on river line better

 

[xdeucesx]

no sizing on river because i check wat are you trying to get value from?

9x, 8x, 1010, even some 2p's like 56 might find a call if it's small enough

 

[xdeucesx]

Ye i think its hard to have value hands but i struggle to pick out many bluff combo's feel like 67s would cbet such a dry board as it has a lot of FE with yu missing a ton

I thought about that. To me, his line just didn't make sense. Like what is he repping, purely 44 right? I mean were blocking JJ + 55 is unlikely as well

 

[TylerN]

9x, 8x, 1010, even some 2p's like 56 might find a call if it's small enough

jk didnt see straight

nvm me

 

[xdeucesx]

jk didnt see straight

nvm me

 

[xdeucesx]

v a reg

3b 9% in the blinds

I expected him to try to stab at turns w/air, but his river follow through being 3/4 confused me

Help plz, i'm bad in 3b pots

Revolution Gaming Network - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 30.5 BB (VPIP: 22.97, PFR: 21.62, 3Bet Preflop: 7.41, Hands: 80)
UTG: 156.72 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 15.63, 3Bet Preflop: 2.56, Hands: 97)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 17.26, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 175)
CO: 152.78 BB (VPIP: 23.31, PFR: 17.29, 3Bet Preflop: 5.77, Hands: 137)
Hero (BTN): 115.08 BB
SB: 213.86 BB (VPIP: 25.70, PFR: 19.63, 3Bet Preflop: 5.84, Hands: 447)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8:club: 8:diamond:

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.68 BB, SB raises to 9 BB, fold, Hero calls 6.32 BB

Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) J:heart: 7:club: T:diamond:
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (19 BB, 2 players) T:spade:
SB bets 12.5 BB, Hero calls 12.5 BB

River: (44 BB, 2 players) 2:heart:
SB bets 27 BB, Hero calls 27 BB

 

[LuckyChippy]

Thought the thread title was dubious until the Ducky correction. In. Currently at 25nl treading water though it's debatable I'm good enough to stay there right now.

v a reg

3b 9% in the blinds

I expected him to try to stab at turns w/air, but his river follow through being 3/4 confused me

Help plz, i'm bad in 3b pots

Revolution Gaming Network - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 30.5 BB (VPIP: 22.97, PFR: 21.62, 3Bet Preflop: 7.41, Hands: 80)
UTG: 156.72 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 15.63, 3Bet Preflop: 2.56, Hands: 97)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 17.26, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 175)
CO: 152.78 BB (VPIP: 23.31, PFR: 17.29, 3Bet Preflop: 5.77, Hands: 137)
Hero (BTN): 115.08 BB
SB: 213.86 BB (VPIP: 25.70, PFR: 19.63, 3Bet Preflop: 5.84, Hands: 447)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8<font color='black'>♣</font> 8<font color='red'>♦</font>

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.68 BB, SB raises to 9 BB, fold, Hero calls 6.32 BB

Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) J<font color='red'>♥</font> 7<font color='black'>♣</font> T<font color='red'>♦</font>
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (19 BB, 2 players) T<font color='black'>♠</font>
SB bets 12.5 BB, Hero calls 12.5 BB

River: (44 BB, 2 players) 2<font color='red'>♥</font>
SB bets 27 BB, Hero calls 27 BB

I'm almost definitely calling after his flop check, you're right that he bets most things on the turn, the paired board making it less likely you have a hand. If I was villain with air I'd be betting river and expecting you to fold that hand, he played it pretty much as I would. You've both played it like you don't have much or he has a T and you're not much is likely better.

I would have bet flop if I was you as well as a T turn.

 

[Ducky7]

Ye i would bet flop

Tough river spot, coz this hits your calling range so i feel like he didnt want to get raised and planned to x/c then OTT felt he could get 2 comfy streets

 

[Cafeman]

Mid-stakes? lol

 

[Ducky7]

Shut up Neil

 

[Cafeman]

l
o
l

 

[Ducky7]

I already corrected my mistake and everyone knows what i mean

 

[Ducky7]

Not even mistake but F u neil